Reading from the words of the poet: "How much is said of Allah, His Messenger said... to the end of the chapter"
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The reader: "How much is said of Allah, His Messenger said *** From above our necks and our fingers
When we said, 'Aristotle said'
The Shaykh : No, 'Ristaw' said, the verse is a bit long
The reader: When we said, 'Ristaw the teach *** er said'
The Shaykh : The teacher
The student: ...
The Shaykh :"When we said, 'Ristaw the teach *** er said this first, or did that second one say it'
The reader: "When we said, 'Ristaw the teach *** er said this'.
The Shaykh : By Allah, what do you have for the second half? What do you have?
The student: When we said, 'Ristaw the teach *** er said this first...
I don't have... Ristaw
The Shaykh : Yes, without the hamza. I say perhaps the verse would be correct if we said:
"When we said, 'This Ristaw the teach *** er said first, or did that second one say it'
No, the hamza is not in place, okay
"When we said, 'Ristaw this teach *** er said first, or did that second one say it'
Meaning, 'this' is necessary, either before Ristaw or after it
The student: Before it is better
The Shaykh : Before it is better
"When we said, 'This Ristaw the teach *** er said first, or did that second one say it'
No, that won't do, okay.
The student: ...
The Shaykh :"When we said, 'This' I will keep my copy like this, yes, 'this' before Ristaw.
The reader: "When we said, 'Ristaw this teach *** er said first, or did that second one say it
And likewise if we said, 'Ibn Sina said this *** or did al-Razi, the one with clear explanation, say it
They said to us, 'The Messenger said, and he said in *** the Qur'an, how is the refutation of the Qur'an
And likewise you are from them also in this *** state of distress that you see
If you come to them with reason, they come to you *** with the text from athar and from the Qur'an
So when we are done with them, our disagreement *** is easy, for we and you are brothers
So the Throne, in our group and your group, *** no one is above it without concealment
Nothing is above it except non-existence, which *** has nothing in realities and in minds
Allah is not existent there, but rather *** non-existence is established above the possessor of the worlds
And Allah is non-existent there in reality *** by essence, contrary to the statement of the Christians
This is tawhid in our group *** and your group, and the reality of gnosis
And likewise our group, upon verification, *** in the Torah and the Gospel and the Furqan
It is not the speech of Allah, but a flow from *** the Doer, or a creation from the worlds
So the earth has no word for Him, and *** above the heavens there is no religion for creation
A human brought the revelation, and it is his speech *** in that, we and you are alike
And for that we said that our seeing Him *** is the eye of the impossible, and not by possibility
And you claimed that we see Him as the non-existent *** is seen, not the existent, in the proof".
The Shaykh : In realities, in realities, I have in realities, not in realities, the proof is in the verse after it.
The reader: "And you claimed that we see Him as the non-existent *** is seen, not the existent, in realities"
When every visible thing stands
The Shaykh : Visible
The reader: "When every visible thing stands by itself *** or by another, it is necessary in the proof
That it faces the one who sees it in reality *** without excessive distance or nearness
And indeed, you and we have cooperated to refute this *** so there are not two statements here
As for the calamity, it is the statement of one who ascribes a body to Allah *** who said, 'The Qur'an emanated from the Most Merciful
It is His word and His speech emanated from Him *** in wording and meaning, they do not separate
The trustworthy one heard His speech from Him and conveyed *** it to the chosen one from among humans
So for him is the conveyance as the conveyance is for his messenger *** and the word is the word of Allah, the Sovereign
This is what we said, and you say it is *** the eye of the impossible, and that is refuted"
The Shaykh : And that
The reader: And that is refuted
The Shaykh : Yes
The reader: "This is what we said, and you say it is *** the eye of the impossible, and that is refuted
If we all cooperate that *** there is no Qur'an for Allah between us
Except like the house of Allah, that addition of the *** created, except the attributes"
The Shaykh : Not the attributes
The reader: "Except like the house of Allah, that addition of the *** created, not the attributes for the Sovereign
So what is this war between us *** with this agreement, and we are reconciled
If you refuse, we are safe, so you turn *** to the statement of ascribing a body to Allah with submission
Return to being those who ascribe a body to Allah and say our religion is *** affirmation"
The Shaykh : Our religion
The reader: "Return to being those who ascribe a body to Allah and say our religion is *** affirmation, a religion likening the Sovereign
Or no, then there is none from us and none from them, and this *** is the affair of the hypocrite, for he has two faces
This one says he is one who ascribes a body to Allah, and his opponents *** accuse him of denial of attributes and disbelief
He is standing, he is sitting, he is a denier, *** he is an affirmer, he meets this" colors
The Shaykh : Not this colors
The reader: "He is standing, he is sitting, he is a denier, *** he is an affirmer, he meets this colors
One day he says with figurative interpretation, and sometimes *** he attacks the figurative interpretation with denial".
The Shaykh : Allah is the Greatest, may Allah have mercy on him. Four minutes remaining, yes, we will take what is possible.
When we said, 'Aristotle said'
The Shaykh : No, 'Ristaw' said, the verse is a bit long
The reader: When we said, 'Ristaw the teach *** er said'
The Shaykh : The teacher
The student: ...
The Shaykh :"When we said, 'Ristaw the teach *** er said this first, or did that second one say it'
The reader: "When we said, 'Ristaw the teach *** er said this'.
The Shaykh : By Allah, what do you have for the second half? What do you have?
The student: When we said, 'Ristaw the teach *** er said this first...
I don't have... Ristaw
The Shaykh : Yes, without the hamza. I say perhaps the verse would be correct if we said:
"When we said, 'This Ristaw the teach *** er said first, or did that second one say it'
No, the hamza is not in place, okay
"When we said, 'Ristaw this teach *** er said first, or did that second one say it'
Meaning, 'this' is necessary, either before Ristaw or after it
The student: Before it is better
The Shaykh : Before it is better
"When we said, 'This Ristaw the teach *** er said first, or did that second one say it'
No, that won't do, okay.
The student: ...
The Shaykh :"When we said, 'This' I will keep my copy like this, yes, 'this' before Ristaw.
The reader: "When we said, 'Ristaw this teach *** er said first, or did that second one say it
And likewise if we said, 'Ibn Sina said this *** or did al-Razi, the one with clear explanation, say it
They said to us, 'The Messenger said, and he said in *** the Qur'an, how is the refutation of the Qur'an
And likewise you are from them also in this *** state of distress that you see
If you come to them with reason, they come to you *** with the text from athar and from the Qur'an
So when we are done with them, our disagreement *** is easy, for we and you are brothers
So the Throne, in our group and your group, *** no one is above it without concealment
Nothing is above it except non-existence, which *** has nothing in realities and in minds
Allah is not existent there, but rather *** non-existence is established above the possessor of the worlds
And Allah is non-existent there in reality *** by essence, contrary to the statement of the Christians
This is tawhid in our group *** and your group, and the reality of gnosis
And likewise our group, upon verification, *** in the Torah and the Gospel and the Furqan
It is not the speech of Allah, but a flow from *** the Doer, or a creation from the worlds
So the earth has no word for Him, and *** above the heavens there is no religion for creation
A human brought the revelation, and it is his speech *** in that, we and you are alike
And for that we said that our seeing Him *** is the eye of the impossible, and not by possibility
And you claimed that we see Him as the non-existent *** is seen, not the existent, in the proof".
The Shaykh : In realities, in realities, I have in realities, not in realities, the proof is in the verse after it.
The reader: "And you claimed that we see Him as the non-existent *** is seen, not the existent, in realities"
When every visible thing stands
The Shaykh : Visible
The reader: "When every visible thing stands by itself *** or by another, it is necessary in the proof
That it faces the one who sees it in reality *** without excessive distance or nearness
And indeed, you and we have cooperated to refute this *** so there are not two statements here
As for the calamity, it is the statement of one who ascribes a body to Allah *** who said, 'The Qur'an emanated from the Most Merciful
It is His word and His speech emanated from Him *** in wording and meaning, they do not separate
The trustworthy one heard His speech from Him and conveyed *** it to the chosen one from among humans
So for him is the conveyance as the conveyance is for his messenger *** and the word is the word of Allah, the Sovereign
This is what we said, and you say it is *** the eye of the impossible, and that is refuted"
The Shaykh : And that
The reader: And that is refuted
The Shaykh : Yes
The reader: "This is what we said, and you say it is *** the eye of the impossible, and that is refuted
If we all cooperate that *** there is no Qur'an for Allah between us
Except like the house of Allah, that addition of the *** created, except the attributes"
The Shaykh : Not the attributes
The reader: "Except like the house of Allah, that addition of the *** created, not the attributes for the Sovereign
So what is this war between us *** with this agreement, and we are reconciled
If you refuse, we are safe, so you turn *** to the statement of ascribing a body to Allah with submission
Return to being those who ascribe a body to Allah and say our religion is *** affirmation"
The Shaykh : Our religion
The reader: "Return to being those who ascribe a body to Allah and say our religion is *** affirmation, a religion likening the Sovereign
Or no, then there is none from us and none from them, and this *** is the affair of the hypocrite, for he has two faces
This one says he is one who ascribes a body to Allah, and his opponents *** accuse him of denial of attributes and disbelief
He is standing, he is sitting, he is a denier, *** he is an affirmer, he meets this" colors
The Shaykh : Not this colors
The reader: "He is standing, he is sitting, he is a denier, *** he is an affirmer, he meets this colors
One day he says with figurative interpretation, and sometimes *** he attacks the figurative interpretation with denial".
The Shaykh : Allah is the Greatest, may Allah have mercy on him. Four minutes remaining, yes, we will take what is possible.