A student who used to engage in the secret habit during Ramadan before reaching puberty, then Ramadan came and he reached puberty in it, and he continued to do it out of ignorance, not knowing the number of days he did it in.
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The questioner : May Allah reward you with good, O honorable Shaykh. There is a student who used to engage in the secret habit.
The Shaykh : What?
The questioner : He used to engage in the secret habit.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : That is, he was a sinner.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : So Ramadan came upon him and he had not reached puberty.
The Shaykh : And he had not reached puberty?
The questioner : Yes, and he had not reached puberty, and he fasted that month. Then a new year came and he reached puberty, and despite that, he was still engaging in the secret habit.
The Shaykh : During the daytime of Ramadan.
The questioner : During the daytime of Ramadan, and he did not know the ruling. That is, he was in the sixth year of primary school or the first year of middle school, and he knew nothing about this, about its ruling.
The Shaykh : Yes, exactly.
The questioner : And he does not know now the number of days in which he engaged in this habit. I do not know, and what is your answer?
The Shaykh : First: you mentioned that he used to engage in the secret habit and had not reached puberty. How is that, if he had not reached puberty?
Because it is not possible that if semen came out of him, he would have reached puberty, even if he were only ten years old.
The questioner : After that.
The Shaykh : No, my question is about your first statement: that he was engaging in the secret habit. Does he ejaculate or not?
The questioner : He does not ejaculate.
The Shaykh : In the beginning, that is.
The questioner : In the first year he fasted. After he fasted it for a year, that is, he reached puberty, and he knew nothing about this ruling.
The Shaykh : Yes, if this person does not know the ruling of this matter and thinks that the secret habit does not break the fast, then he owes no making up of fasts, by the saying of Allah the Exalted: رَبَّنَا لا تُؤَاخِذْنَا إِنْ نَسِينَا أَوْ أَخْطَأْنَا ، قال الله : قد فعلت Our Lord, do not hold us accountable if we forget or if we make a mistake. Allah said: I have done so..
The Shaykh : What?
The questioner : He used to engage in the secret habit.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : That is, he was a sinner.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : So Ramadan came upon him and he had not reached puberty.
The Shaykh : And he had not reached puberty?
The questioner : Yes, and he had not reached puberty, and he fasted that month. Then a new year came and he reached puberty, and despite that, he was still engaging in the secret habit.
The Shaykh : During the daytime of Ramadan.
The questioner : During the daytime of Ramadan, and he did not know the ruling. That is, he was in the sixth year of primary school or the first year of middle school, and he knew nothing about this, about its ruling.
The Shaykh : Yes, exactly.
The questioner : And he does not know now the number of days in which he engaged in this habit. I do not know, and what is your answer?
The Shaykh : First: you mentioned that he used to engage in the secret habit and had not reached puberty. How is that, if he had not reached puberty?
Because it is not possible that if semen came out of him, he would have reached puberty, even if he were only ten years old.
The questioner : After that.
The Shaykh : No, my question is about your first statement: that he was engaging in the secret habit. Does he ejaculate or not?
The questioner : He does not ejaculate.
The Shaykh : In the beginning, that is.
The questioner : In the first year he fasted. After he fasted it for a year, that is, he reached puberty, and he knew nothing about this ruling.
The Shaykh : Yes, if this person does not know the ruling of this matter and thinks that the secret habit does not break the fast, then he owes no making up of fasts, by the saying of Allah the Exalted: رَبَّنَا لا تُؤَاخِذْنَا إِنْ نَسِينَا أَوْ أَخْطَأْنَا ، قال الله : قد فعلت Our Lord, do not hold us accountable if we forget or if we make a mistake. Allah said: I have done so..