In the hadith of Jabir, in which it is mentioned that they used to sell mothers of children during the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), we said that this is understood to mean that they did not separate the mother from her child.
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The questioner : Shaykh, may Allah reward you, in the hadith of Jabir (may Allah be pleased with him), it is mentioned that they used to sell mothers of children.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : We said that this is understood to mean that they did not separate the mother from her child.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : ... mothers of children.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : It indicates that there were children.
The Shaykh : In any case, because she becomes a mother of a child, and the child dies.
The questioner : Every...
The Shaykh : No, heh heh, not all of them die, but it is understood to be this, and it is said that those whose children remain are not sold.
The questioner : So why, O Shaykh...
The Shaykh : And for this reason, 'Umar only resorted to that because people no longer cared about separating them. As for the Companions, when he said:Sunan al-Bayhaqi 16:914 Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1566Hasan (Darussalam), they did not sell them.
The questioner : Well, is there no possibility that the hadith of Jabir
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: is understood to mean that the children were adults, and in the hadith of 'Umar (may Allah be pleased with him)...
The Shaykh : It is possible, it can be understood that way, because it is a matter of scholarly disagreement.
The questioner : Yes, indeed.
The Shaykh : Is it permissible to separate them... whether the child is an adult or she is only in the state of nursing? The apparent meaning of the texts is general: they are not separated under any circumstances.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : We said that this is understood to mean that they did not separate the mother from her child.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : ... mothers of children.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : It indicates that there were children.
The Shaykh : In any case, because she becomes a mother of a child, and the child dies.
The questioner : Every...
The Shaykh : No, heh heh, not all of them die, but it is understood to be this, and it is said that those whose children remain are not sold.
The questioner : So why, O Shaykh...
The Shaykh : And for this reason, 'Umar only resorted to that because people no longer cared about separating them. As for the Companions, when he said:
A mother is not separated from her child
لا يفرّق بين والدة وولدهاWhoever separates between a mother and her child, then Allah will separate between him and his beloved on the Day of Judgement.
من فرّق بين والدة وولدها فرّق الله بينه وبين أحبّته يوم القيامةThe questioner : Well, is there no possibility that the hadith of Jabir
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: is understood to mean that the children were adults, and in the hadith of 'Umar (may Allah be pleased with him)...
The Shaykh : It is possible, it can be understood that way, because it is a matter of scholarly disagreement.
The questioner : Yes, indeed.
The Shaykh : Is it permissible to separate them... whether the child is an adult or she is only in the state of nursing? The apparent meaning of the texts is general: they are not separated under any circumstances.