Is there a distinction between touching the private parts with desire and without desire?
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The questioner : Shaykh, is there a distinction regarding the issue of touching the private parts with desire and without desire?
The Shaykh : This is the stronger position; this is the stronger position, reconciling the hadiths that appear to contradict each otherSahih Ibn Hibban 8:85, and as Ibn Mas'ud said: This is clearly ordinary touching not accompanied by desire. If it is accompanied by desire, then the hadith of Basrah applies: Sunan Abi Dawud 181Sahih (Al-Albani), Sunan Abi Dawud 181Sahih (Al-Albani); that is: with desire. Especially since the cause of the first hadith was that the questioner asked him, "I am in prayer, so I extend my hand and scratch my body and touch it," and he said: Sahih Ibn Hibban 8:85 It is clear that there is no desire in that.
The questioner : Correct.
The Shaykh : He prays and scratches it, so this hadith is restricted to its specific case, meaning without desire, and the general one is qualified by this, so it is said: Whoever touches his private parts with desire, let him perform wudu.
The questioner : Well, naturally, the opinion says that if there is a barrier, if it is with a barrier.
The Shaykh : This is an allusion to the fact that in most cases there is no desire, because the one who wants desire does not use a barrier. Yes, you relied on the fact that you prioritize the barrier, just as he said.
Abu Layla : No, it's scratching; it's scratching the second line next to it, which is the one that follows... follows the one that takes the water, so give it a chance when necessary, our Shaykh, we will use it when the matter requires it.
The Shaykh : Well, now, what else is there besides this?
Abu Layla : It needs to go back now to the second line, which is after the return, in order to suck the water from it.
The Shaykh : Yes.
Abu Layla : Yes, from the motor.
The Shaykh : Yes.
Abu Layla : Yes, my Shaykh.
The Shaykh : This is the stronger position; this is the stronger position, reconciling the hadiths that appear to contradict each other
Is it not but a part of you?
هل هو إلا بضعة منك ؟Whether you touched it or...
سواء مسَسَتَه أو ...He who touches his penis should perform ablution.
مَن مَسَّ ذكره فليتوضَّأHe who touches his penis should perform ablution.
مَن مَسَّ ذكره فليتوضَّأIs it not but a part of you?
هل هو إلا بضعة منك ؟The questioner : Correct.
The Shaykh : He prays and scratches it, so this hadith is restricted to its specific case, meaning without desire, and the general one is qualified by this, so it is said: Whoever touches his private parts with desire, let him perform wudu.
The questioner : Well, naturally, the opinion says that if there is a barrier, if it is with a barrier.
The Shaykh : This is an allusion to the fact that in most cases there is no desire, because the one who wants desire does not use a barrier. Yes, you relied on the fact that you prioritize the barrier, just as he said.
Abu Layla : No, it's scratching; it's scratching the second line next to it, which is the one that follows... follows the one that takes the water, so give it a chance when necessary, our Shaykh, we will use it when the matter requires it.
The Shaykh : Well, now, what else is there besides this?
Abu Layla : It needs to go back now to the second line, which is after the return, in order to suck the water from it.
The Shaykh : Yes.
Abu Layla : Yes, from the motor.
The Shaykh : Yes.
Abu Layla : Yes, my Shaykh.
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