What is the ruling on applying for social security if the individual is ill and fears that his condition will worsen?
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The questioner : Actually, the question is a bit long!
The Shaykh : Good, if Allah wills.
The questioner : May Allah do you good, if Allah wills. Well, the job I work in is as an architectural drafter for Engineer Tahir Asfour.
The Shaykh : With the Christians?
The questioner : For Engineer Tahir Asfour.
The Shaykh : With whom?
The questioner : For Engineer Tahir Asfour.
The Shaykh : Tahir, Abu Muhammad.
The questioner : Yes, yes.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : I have been working as an architectural drafter for a long time!
The Shaykh : What does architectural drafter mean?
The questioner : It means drawing buildings, works, plans, and other things.
The Shaykh : Not drawing animals?
The questioner : No, no, buildings.
The Shaykh : Planning?
The questioner : Planning buildings.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner : So the job, the job has affected my health. I developed a disc problem here in my back.
The Shaykh : May Allah keep you healthy, if Allah wills.
The questioner : If Allah wills, may Allah bless you, my dear master. A while ago, some people suggested to me, they said to me: Why don't you apply for social security, because the job will have a greater impact in the long run, even though I had surgery on my back, as you can see, but I am still afraid, I mean, in the future, it might last two or three or four years and then the job will come back to me as a result of this profession.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner : So I don't know, I mean, regarding the suggestion people made to me to apply for social security with a medical report, as you can see, on the basis of receiving a salary from them, in advance from now on, I don't know what your response is?
The Shaykh : Do they give you a salary in advance here?
The questioner : No, it is based on reports, I am not asking to take from the doctor a medical report.
The Shaykh : Yes, yes.
The questioner : And I submit it to the government, as you can see.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Of course, committees from the government and from social security will come out.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : As you can see!
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : But I don't know if this method is correct or wrong?
The Shaykh : As I understand from your words: there is some deception regarding social security?
The questioner : No, I am thinking about the future, in the future, because I will not continue in this profession!
The Shaykh : Let me, now, what are you thinking?
The questioner: Go ahead.
The Shaykh : Our talk now is what do you want to submit, not what are you thinking.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : We are talking about what you want to submit to social security so that they can help you from now on.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Does what you will submit represent the reality? And it is not in your interest for the reality to be that you are ill and sick and in need!
The questioner : It is true that I am ill, even now the pain is present, I mean.
The Shaykh : No problem, my brother, may Allah bless you.
The questioner : Welcome.
The Shaykh : I am being asked for a ruling now, and I am not a doctor.
The questioner : Yes, yes, please go ahead.
The Shaykh : And therefore, all that is in the matter is that I say: If you submitted a report that matches your reality, and this report was acceptable to the official or officials in social security, and they gave you a salary without you having beautified it for them or depicted it for them, but rather for what is your reality.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : If this is the case, meaning your report matches the reality, then it is permissible, otherwise it is not permissible. Then I understand that social security is not a charitable organization that gives a salary or pension to a person who has not previously submitted to social security some money or material. Do I understand now something new that I did not know before, that social security gives to any person who submits a truthful medical report that he is in need, that he is ill, may Allah forbid, or that he is disabled? This is something I do not know about social security! So what is your opinion?
The questioner : I mean, do you mean if he is a member or not, I mean?
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : I am a member of social security.
The Shaykh : Good, how long have you been a member?
The questioner : For about eight years, approximately.
The Shaykh : Good, so based on the fact that you are a member, do you want to submit?
The questioner : I submit a report, yes.
The Shaykh : Ah, so the answer has already been given: if the report matches the reality, it is permissible, otherwise it is not.
The questioner : But I am currently on the second part of the question.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The Shaykh : That is, am I currently, approximately, almost able to work, I mean, I can work, I can continue for about one or two or three or four years.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : But Allah (Glorified and Exalted is He) knows the unseen, it is possible that after four years, for example, I will not be able to continue.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner : And this is my question, I mean!
The Shaykh : Good, is social security not for this issue?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Good, social security is for this thing, in case it happens, and you should always supplicate to your Lord that it does not happen.
The questioner : If Allah wills.
The Shaykh : If Allah wills.
The questioner : I mean, if I submitted now.
The Shaykh : Do not do it.
The questioner : Do not do it, may Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : And beware of that.
The Shaykh : Good, if Allah wills.
The questioner : May Allah do you good, if Allah wills. Well, the job I work in is as an architectural drafter for Engineer Tahir Asfour.
The Shaykh : With the Christians?
The questioner : For Engineer Tahir Asfour.
The Shaykh : With whom?
The questioner : For Engineer Tahir Asfour.
The Shaykh : Tahir, Abu Muhammad.
The questioner : Yes, yes.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : I have been working as an architectural drafter for a long time!
The Shaykh : What does architectural drafter mean?
The questioner : It means drawing buildings, works, plans, and other things.
The Shaykh : Not drawing animals?
The questioner : No, no, buildings.
The Shaykh : Planning?
The questioner : Planning buildings.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner : So the job, the job has affected my health. I developed a disc problem here in my back.
The Shaykh : May Allah keep you healthy, if Allah wills.
The questioner : If Allah wills, may Allah bless you, my dear master. A while ago, some people suggested to me, they said to me: Why don't you apply for social security, because the job will have a greater impact in the long run, even though I had surgery on my back, as you can see, but I am still afraid, I mean, in the future, it might last two or three or four years and then the job will come back to me as a result of this profession.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner : So I don't know, I mean, regarding the suggestion people made to me to apply for social security with a medical report, as you can see, on the basis of receiving a salary from them, in advance from now on, I don't know what your response is?
The Shaykh : Do they give you a salary in advance here?
The questioner : No, it is based on reports, I am not asking to take from the doctor a medical report.
The Shaykh : Yes, yes.
The questioner : And I submit it to the government, as you can see.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Of course, committees from the government and from social security will come out.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : As you can see!
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : But I don't know if this method is correct or wrong?
The Shaykh : As I understand from your words: there is some deception regarding social security?
The questioner : No, I am thinking about the future, in the future, because I will not continue in this profession!
The Shaykh : Let me, now, what are you thinking?
The questioner: Go ahead.
The Shaykh : Our talk now is what do you want to submit, not what are you thinking.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : We are talking about what you want to submit to social security so that they can help you from now on.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Does what you will submit represent the reality? And it is not in your interest for the reality to be that you are ill and sick and in need!
The questioner : It is true that I am ill, even now the pain is present, I mean.
The Shaykh : No problem, my brother, may Allah bless you.
The questioner : Welcome.
The Shaykh : I am being asked for a ruling now, and I am not a doctor.
The questioner : Yes, yes, please go ahead.
The Shaykh : And therefore, all that is in the matter is that I say: If you submitted a report that matches your reality, and this report was acceptable to the official or officials in social security, and they gave you a salary without you having beautified it for them or depicted it for them, but rather for what is your reality.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : If this is the case, meaning your report matches the reality, then it is permissible, otherwise it is not permissible. Then I understand that social security is not a charitable organization that gives a salary or pension to a person who has not previously submitted to social security some money or material. Do I understand now something new that I did not know before, that social security gives to any person who submits a truthful medical report that he is in need, that he is ill, may Allah forbid, or that he is disabled? This is something I do not know about social security! So what is your opinion?
The questioner : I mean, do you mean if he is a member or not, I mean?
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : I am a member of social security.
The Shaykh : Good, how long have you been a member?
The questioner : For about eight years, approximately.
The Shaykh : Good, so based on the fact that you are a member, do you want to submit?
The questioner : I submit a report, yes.
The Shaykh : Ah, so the answer has already been given: if the report matches the reality, it is permissible, otherwise it is not.
The questioner : But I am currently on the second part of the question.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The Shaykh : That is, am I currently, approximately, almost able to work, I mean, I can work, I can continue for about one or two or three or four years.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : But Allah (Glorified and Exalted is He) knows the unseen, it is possible that after four years, for example, I will not be able to continue.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner : And this is my question, I mean!
The Shaykh : Good, is social security not for this issue?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Good, social security is for this thing, in case it happens, and you should always supplicate to your Lord that it does not happen.
The questioner : If Allah wills.
The Shaykh : If Allah wills.
The questioner : I mean, if I submitted now.
The Shaykh : Do not do it.
The questioner : Do not do it, may Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : And beware of that.
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