The Ruling on Gold Rings for Women
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The Shaykh : But may I ask you, what is your opinion on gold rings for women?
The questioner : I have no knowledge.
The Shaykh : ... .
The questioner : Allah knows best.
The Shaykh : And what is required of the one who says, "Allah knows best," regarding a matter?
The questioner : I want you to...
The Shaykh : How do you want me to? No, I wanted to clarify to you what I mean by the question. If you have a wife and you do not know the ruling on gold rings, practically speaking, what would you do? Would you have her wear a gold ring or not?
The questioner : If I were to refrain from it until I ask the people of knowledge.
The Shaykh : How?
The questioner : I would refrain in this matter.
The Shaykh : And are you actually refraining?
The questioner : No, until I ask, I mean.
The Shaykh: Hehehe.
The questioner : But I have not actually refrained.
The Shaykh: Hehehe.
The student : ... .
Another student: But perhaps the brother, perhaps the brother spoke in general terms about the hadith that gold is permissible for women.
The Shaykh : Yes, but I believe that he and all the people present with him do not believe, do not affirm, the generality of the hadith. What is your opinion?
The student : I tell you, there is detail in it, O Shaykh. Heh.
The Shaykh : Heh, ha, and what is your opinion?
The questioner : Yes, Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Do you affirm the generality of the hadith?
The questioner : No, Shaykh.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : There are restricted hadiths, O Shaykh?
The Shaykh : Yes, that is it.
The questioner : Yes, exactly.
The Shaykh : So, is the generality of the hadith affirmed in that case?
The questioner : No, O Shaykh, it is not affirmed.
The Shaykh : Hmm.
The questioner : But on this point, O Shaykh...
The Shaykh : And we researched this point.
The questioner : Heh.
The Shaykh : We researched this point: is the hadith general?
The questioner : By Allah, I might say, O Shaykh... a book on this matter.
The Shaykh : Not a book, a research.
The questioner : A research... yes.
The student : May I give permission for the prayer, my Shaykh?
The Shaykh : Come on, in the name of Allah.
The student : Allah is the Greatest, Allah is the Greatest.
The Shaykh : Allah is the Greatest, Allah is the Greatest.
The student : Allah is the Greatest, Allah is the Greatest.
The Shaykh : Allah is the Greatest. Let me finish before they start; they will start.
The student : I bear witness that there is no deity but Allah.
The Shaykh : ... .
The student : Yes, Shaykh.
The Shaykh : I know the echo...
The student : I bear witness that there is no deity but Allah.
Another student: Especially the apples, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Especially the apples.
The student : And the bananas.
Another student: This, our Shaykh, cannot be separated from the peel to the pulp.
The Shaykh: Allahu Akbar.
The student : These are the ones who divide things.
The Shaykh : Woe to those who say Islam is pulp and peel.
The student : Our Shaykh, because they divided it this way, there is this kind of thing in them.
The Shaykh : Start.
Another student: Hurry to the prayer.
The Shaykh: There is no power nor strength except with Allah.
The student : Hurry to the prayer.
The Shaykh: There is no power nor strength except with Allah.
The student : Hurry to success.
The Shaykh: There is no power nor strength except with Allah.
The student : Hurry to success. Allah is the Greatest, Allah is the Greatest.
The Shaykh : Allah is the Greatest, Allah is the Greatest.
The student : There is no god but Allah.
The Shaykh : There is no deity but Allah. O Allah, send blessings upon Muhammad as You sent blessings upon Ibrahim, and grant peace to Muhammad as You granted peace to Ibrahim.
The Shaykh : GenerallySunan Ibn Majah 3595Sahih (Darussalam), praise be to Allah. If a hadith comes that forbids a type of gold that is originally permissible for women, is it said, relying on the principles of jurisprudence, that this text is abrogated, or is it said that it is a specification of the general text, an exception from it? What do the principles of usul and fiqh say? A general text that forbids something, or a general text that permits something, and this thing is a generic name that includes many types, then a text comes that relates to a part of these types. Is it said that this part is abrogated, or is it said that it was specified and excepted from the general text?
The student : This is a specification, because the specific restricts the general.
The Shaykh : This is why our jurists do not apply this rule in this matter. There are explicit texts forbidding gold rings. Let us stop now at gold rings for women. Why do they say this is abrogated?
The student : They do not say it is abrogated, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : So.
The student : They say, for example, O our Shaykh... for example, its 'illah is if women perform the payment of zakah.
The Shaykh : May Allah forgive you. The matter has now gone beyond being a usul and fiqh issue. The matter now—and peace be upon you and the mercy of Allah—has gone beyond being a usul and fiqh issue, and you have brought it into a usul and hadith issue, so you have entered into the research...
The student : This is their opinion, O Shaykh. I did not say it is my opinion. No.
The Shaykh : I am not saying it is your opinion or their opinion. You developed the topic, not they.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : They are not present now. You developed the topic from a fiqh and usul issue to a hadith and usul issue. This is not correct in research. My question was: why do the jurists today, at least, say that this hadith is abrogated? You said no, and they say it is abrogated.
The student : Some say it is abrogated, and some say what you mentioned.
The Shaykh : And we researched with whom now? With those who say what?
The student : Abrogated.
The Shaykh : That it is abrogated.
The student : Both of them.
The Shaykh : Hmm.
The student : Both days.
The Shaykh : No, now we are researching with these people, not those. Each has his own research. Because if one says, for example, that this hadith is not authentic, we have a hadith research with him. And if one says the hadith is authentic but it is abrogated, we have a usul and fiqh research. But you are saying both. This should not be said. And where is Abu 'Umar?
The student : He is going to perform wudu.
The Shaykh : He has not performed wudu yet. Well, why are we talking to absent people and not to the present ones, among whom is goodness and blessing, if Allah wills? So what is your opinion on this fiqh principle? One of you answered earlier.
The student : If water is present, tayammum is invalid, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : The Saudis are clear, they are studying politics. Heh heh.
The student: Hehehe.
Another student: Politics, my Shaykh, is widespread now.
The Shaykh : It is so, so, it is clear.
The student : Of course, this is it.
Another student: It is invalid for them.
Another student: We benefit from you, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Heh heh heh, but I am completely against politics, absolutely.
The student : From the political, abandoning politics.
The Shaykh : And the divorce from the known politics of the people is what stirred the people and angered them against us.
The student : Allah is the Helper.
The Shaykh : And I do not care when I am killed, a Muslim, on which side my death is in Allah.
The questioner : Or entering into politics with the Shari'ah restrictions, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : How?
The questioner : Or entering into politics with the Shari'ah restrictions.
The Shaykh : If you said their politics.
The questioner : Yes, their politics, yes, correct.
The Shaykh : But you are now in which politics... heh heh, the Shari'ah one or what? Heh heh.
The student : The customary one.
The Shaykh : Heh heh heh, Allah is the Helper.
The student : The customary politics.
The Shaykh : There is no power nor strength except in Allah. These people, from their politics, are merchants who buy what they do not sell.
The student : They do not sell, yes, they are clever.
The Shaykh : Heh heh, these Saudis are known for trade, especially some of the countries among them.
The student : These, my Shaykh, are from the people of Buraydah, one of the most famous areas of al-Qasim in trade, Buraydah.
The Shaykh : Yes, heh heh.
The student : It has been mentioned before...
The Shaykh : This is it. Peace be upon you and the mercy of Allah... with it until the Day of Resurrection. You must be of good repute.
The student : We hope for that from Allah.
The questioner : I have no knowledge.
The Shaykh : ... .
The questioner : Allah knows best.
The Shaykh : And what is required of the one who says, "Allah knows best," regarding a matter?
The questioner : I want you to...
The Shaykh : How do you want me to? No, I wanted to clarify to you what I mean by the question. If you have a wife and you do not know the ruling on gold rings, practically speaking, what would you do? Would you have her wear a gold ring or not?
The questioner : If I were to refrain from it until I ask the people of knowledge.
The Shaykh : How?
The questioner : I would refrain in this matter.
The Shaykh : And are you actually refraining?
The questioner : No, until I ask, I mean.
The Shaykh: Hehehe.
The questioner : But I have not actually refrained.
The Shaykh: Hehehe.
The student : ... .
Another student: But perhaps the brother, perhaps the brother spoke in general terms about the hadith that gold is permissible for women.
The Shaykh : Yes, but I believe that he and all the people present with him do not believe, do not affirm, the generality of the hadith. What is your opinion?
The student : I tell you, there is detail in it, O Shaykh. Heh.
The Shaykh : Heh, ha, and what is your opinion?
The questioner : Yes, Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Do you affirm the generality of the hadith?
The questioner : No, Shaykh.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : There are restricted hadiths, O Shaykh?
The Shaykh : Yes, that is it.
The questioner : Yes, exactly.
The Shaykh : So, is the generality of the hadith affirmed in that case?
The questioner : No, O Shaykh, it is not affirmed.
The Shaykh : Hmm.
The questioner : But on this point, O Shaykh...
The Shaykh : And we researched this point.
The questioner : Heh.
The Shaykh : We researched this point: is the hadith general?
The questioner : By Allah, I might say, O Shaykh... a book on this matter.
The Shaykh : Not a book, a research.
The questioner : A research... yes.
The student : May I give permission for the prayer, my Shaykh?
The Shaykh : Come on, in the name of Allah.
The student : Allah is the Greatest, Allah is the Greatest.
The Shaykh : Allah is the Greatest, Allah is the Greatest.
The student : Allah is the Greatest, Allah is the Greatest.
The Shaykh : Allah is the Greatest. Let me finish before they start; they will start.
The student : I bear witness that there is no deity but Allah.
The Shaykh : ... .
The student : Yes, Shaykh.
The Shaykh : I know the echo...
The student : I bear witness that there is no deity but Allah.
Another student: Especially the apples, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Especially the apples.
The student : And the bananas.
Another student: This, our Shaykh, cannot be separated from the peel to the pulp.
The Shaykh: Allahu Akbar.
The student : These are the ones who divide things.
The Shaykh : Woe to those who say Islam is pulp and peel.
The student : Our Shaykh, because they divided it this way, there is this kind of thing in them.
The Shaykh : Start.
Another student: Hurry to the prayer.
The Shaykh: There is no power nor strength except with Allah.
The student : Hurry to the prayer.
The Shaykh: There is no power nor strength except with Allah.
The student : Hurry to success.
The Shaykh: There is no power nor strength except with Allah.
The student : Hurry to success. Allah is the Greatest, Allah is the Greatest.
The Shaykh : Allah is the Greatest, Allah is the Greatest.
The student : There is no god but Allah.
The Shaykh : There is no deity but Allah. O Allah, send blessings upon Muhammad as You sent blessings upon Ibrahim, and grant peace to Muhammad as You granted peace to Ibrahim.
The Shaykh : Generally
These two are forbidden for the males of my nation, and permitted to the females.
هذان حرام على ذكور أمَّتي حلٌّ لإناثهمThe student : This is a specification, because the specific restricts the general.
The Shaykh : This is why our jurists do not apply this rule in this matter. There are explicit texts forbidding gold rings. Let us stop now at gold rings for women. Why do they say this is abrogated?
The student : They do not say it is abrogated, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : So.
The student : They say, for example, O our Shaykh... for example, its 'illah is if women perform the payment of zakah.
The Shaykh : May Allah forgive you. The matter has now gone beyond being a usul and fiqh issue. The matter now—and peace be upon you and the mercy of Allah—has gone beyond being a usul and fiqh issue, and you have brought it into a usul and hadith issue, so you have entered into the research...
The student : This is their opinion, O Shaykh. I did not say it is my opinion. No.
The Shaykh : I am not saying it is your opinion or their opinion. You developed the topic, not they.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : They are not present now. You developed the topic from a fiqh and usul issue to a hadith and usul issue. This is not correct in research. My question was: why do the jurists today, at least, say that this hadith is abrogated? You said no, and they say it is abrogated.
The student : Some say it is abrogated, and some say what you mentioned.
The Shaykh : And we researched with whom now? With those who say what?
The student : Abrogated.
The Shaykh : That it is abrogated.
The student : Both of them.
The Shaykh : Hmm.
The student : Both days.
The Shaykh : No, now we are researching with these people, not those. Each has his own research. Because if one says, for example, that this hadith is not authentic, we have a hadith research with him. And if one says the hadith is authentic but it is abrogated, we have a usul and fiqh research. But you are saying both. This should not be said. And where is Abu 'Umar?
The student : He is going to perform wudu.
The Shaykh : He has not performed wudu yet. Well, why are we talking to absent people and not to the present ones, among whom is goodness and blessing, if Allah wills? So what is your opinion on this fiqh principle? One of you answered earlier.
The student : If water is present, tayammum is invalid, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : The Saudis are clear, they are studying politics. Heh heh.
The student: Hehehe.
Another student: Politics, my Shaykh, is widespread now.
The Shaykh : It is so, so, it is clear.
The student : Of course, this is it.
Another student: It is invalid for them.
Another student: We benefit from you, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Heh heh heh, but I am completely against politics, absolutely.
The student : From the political, abandoning politics.
The Shaykh : And the divorce from the known politics of the people is what stirred the people and angered them against us.
The student : Allah is the Helper.
The Shaykh : And I do not care when I am killed, a Muslim, on which side my death is in Allah.
The questioner : Or entering into politics with the Shari'ah restrictions, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : How?
The questioner : Or entering into politics with the Shari'ah restrictions.
The Shaykh : If you said their politics.
The questioner : Yes, their politics, yes, correct.
The Shaykh : But you are now in which politics... heh heh, the Shari'ah one or what? Heh heh.
The student : The customary one.
The Shaykh : Heh heh heh, Allah is the Helper.
The student : The customary politics.
The Shaykh : There is no power nor strength except in Allah. These people, from their politics, are merchants who buy what they do not sell.
The student : They do not sell, yes, they are clever.
The Shaykh : Heh heh, these Saudis are known for trade, especially some of the countries among them.
The student : These, my Shaykh, are from the people of Buraydah, one of the most famous areas of al-Qasim in trade, Buraydah.
The Shaykh : Yes, heh heh.
The student : It has been mentioned before...
The Shaykh : This is it. Peace be upon you and the mercy of Allah... with it until the Day of Resurrection. You must be of good repute.
The student : We hope for that from Allah.
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