You mentioned, our Shaykh, that were it not for the texts of the Shari'ah, we would not have believed in the existence of the jinn, such as the ghoul.

Mashhur: You mentioned, our Shaykh... the texts of the Shari'ah in the Book and the Sunnah... the legend of the ghoul; the question is about the ghoul; you have authenticated in more than one book... the hadith of al-Tirmidhi, the hadith... that the ghoul comes and eats from the dates of charity, and likewise a hadith that was reported from seven or eight of the Companions with this wording.

The Shaykh: Yes, but you know, may Allah bless you, that the ghoul today, if the term is used, is like the qin'ah; meaning it has a specific nature and description, whereas that...
Mashhur: The popular stories.

The Shaykh : Yes?
Mashhur: Meaning, you deny the ghoul that is commonly known...?

The Shaykh: As for the ghoul that was mentioned, as you graciously noted, in some of the hadiths, it is the jinn; it is the jinn.
Mashhur: It is Iblis... the sorcerer of the jinn.

The Shaykh: The sorcerer of the jinn, meaning just as it is said: the sorcerer of the humans, so he is a human, meaning he is he.
Yes, anything else?