What is the ruling on the prayer of an imam who made a mistake in his prayer, prostrated the prostration for forgetfulness, and did not say the closing salam?
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The questioner: Four rak'ahs, five rak'ahs, and he prostrated the prostration for forgetfulness after the salam, but he did not say the salam.
The Shaykh: This does not harm. The issue of the salam, or not saying the salam, is a secondary matter.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: And there is a distinction made between deficiency and so on, and addition and so on. This is not established in the Sunnah.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: Therefore, the prayer is valid. The important thing is that he prostrates the prostration for forgetfulness, whether before the salam or after the salam, whether in the case of addition or deficiency.
The questioner: If he said the salam, and the ma'mumin reminded him that it was, meaning, an addition, and then he prostrated, and he did not say the salam immediately, this is a salam...
The Shaykh: When did they remind him?
The questioner: After he said the salam.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner: So he prostrated two prostrations of forgetfulness.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner: And he did not say the salam, meaning, how is the salam in this situation?
The Shaykh: He only prostrated two prostrations and stood up.
The questioner: He prostrated only two prostrations and left, and turned around.
The Shaykh: No, his prayer is invalid. It is necessary to exit the prayer with the salam.
The questioner: Meaning, he prayed the four rak'ahs, and he thought in his mind that he had prayed four rak'ahs and said the salam, so the ma'mumin informed him, saying to him: You added a fifth rak'ah.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner: So he prostrated two prostrations of forgetfulness, turned around, and did not say the salam.
The Shaykh: I am telling you, it is not valid.
The questioner: His prayer is invalid in this situation.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner: And what is the ruling for the ma'mumin?
The Shaykh: The prayer of the ma'mumin is valid.
The questioner: Meaning, the prostration for forgetfulness after finishing, O Shaykh, does it also require a salam?
The Shaykh: Yes, it is necessary, because exiting the prayer now is the first salam, which is not exiting the prayer.
The questioner: I understand now from you, O our Shaykh. Our Shaykh, this brother of ours came from Algeria, and he wanted to ask you, but all the brothers preceded him, and he seemed shy to ask, so the questions continued.
Another questioner: ... like 'Abd al-Malik, O our Shaykh.
The Shaykh: This does not harm. The issue of the salam, or not saying the salam, is a secondary matter.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: And there is a distinction made between deficiency and so on, and addition and so on. This is not established in the Sunnah.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: Therefore, the prayer is valid. The important thing is that he prostrates the prostration for forgetfulness, whether before the salam or after the salam, whether in the case of addition or deficiency.
The questioner: If he said the salam, and the ma'mumin reminded him that it was, meaning, an addition, and then he prostrated, and he did not say the salam immediately, this is a salam...
The Shaykh: When did they remind him?
The questioner: After he said the salam.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner: So he prostrated two prostrations of forgetfulness.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner: And he did not say the salam, meaning, how is the salam in this situation?
The Shaykh: He only prostrated two prostrations and stood up.
The questioner: He prostrated only two prostrations and left, and turned around.
The Shaykh: No, his prayer is invalid. It is necessary to exit the prayer with the salam.
The questioner: Meaning, he prayed the four rak'ahs, and he thought in his mind that he had prayed four rak'ahs and said the salam, so the ma'mumin informed him, saying to him: You added a fifth rak'ah.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner: So he prostrated two prostrations of forgetfulness, turned around, and did not say the salam.
The Shaykh: I am telling you, it is not valid.
The questioner: His prayer is invalid in this situation.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner: And what is the ruling for the ma'mumin?
The Shaykh: The prayer of the ma'mumin is valid.
The questioner: Meaning, the prostration for forgetfulness after finishing, O Shaykh, does it also require a salam?
The Shaykh: Yes, it is necessary, because exiting the prayer now is the first salam, which is not exiting the prayer.
The questioner: I understand now from you, O our Shaykh. Our Shaykh, this brother of ours came from Algeria, and he wanted to ask you, but all the brothers preceded him, and he seemed shy to ask, so the questions continued.
Another questioner: ... like 'Abd al-Malik, O our Shaykh.
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