The Shaykh's account of a lengthy discussion with one of the deniers that the Night Journey and Ascension took place with his body and soul (peace be upon him).
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The Shaykh : Once, a discussion took place between me and one of the young men in the al-Zahiriyyah Library. It was the season of the month of Rajab. I think it was the month of Rajab in which they say the Ascension took place?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : I think it was the month of Rajab. Yes, indeed. This young man was among those who had studied modern sciences. So, did the Night Journey and Ascension take place with his body or with his soul? Of course, you know the answer: Yes, with his body and his soul. He said to me: "Is that reasonable?" He entered into the realm of reason. I spoke with him for a long time, but what is the point? I said to him: "I want to ask you some questions!"
The questioner : Oh Shaykh, we need to return to this issue of the soul and the body!
The Shaykh : Ah, I said to him: "I want to ask you: How many hearts does a human have?" He said: "One heart." I said to him: "I read in some magazines that a person was found whose heart was on the right side instead of the left. Is that reasonable?" He said: "Not reasonable." I said to him: "But this is a reality. Does it mean we deny reality because we have not witnessed it and it is not within our comprehension?"
The questioner : It is fixed in our minds like that.
The Shaykh: Huh?
The questioner : It is fixed in our minds that it is on the left.
The Shaykh : Yes, that it is only on the left side. I said to him: "That is one thing. The other: I also read that in a family, meaning a husband and wife with children, each of the husband and the offspring has two hearts, on the right and the left. Do you know this, so-and-so?" He said: "No." I said to him: "Do we deny it because we have not known it?" He remained silent. Finally, here is the point. I said to him: "We see roosters. A beautiful rooster has a tail like this, curved in a circle. Do you agree?" He said: "Yes." I said to him: "What do you think? I saw a picture of a rooster in a magazine, and they placed it on a wall. The height of the wall was three meters, and its tail reached the ground. This is the long beard, hehe. Do you know this?" He said: "No." We said to him: "But this is a reality. So, it is not for you, my brother, to come and deny something you have no knowledge of, because there are things that are outside the ordinary, natural matters, which are called in the language of custom: 'extraordinary events,' and in the language of the Shari'ah: either a 'karamah (a miracle granted to a righteous person)' or a 'mu'jizah (a prophetic miracle),' or a 'seduction' as it pertains to him. In this way, we stopped him from denying something established in the Shari'ah, which is the Night Journey of the Messenger (peace be upon him) and his Ascension with his soul and his body. And this reminded me of this long beard with the long tail of this rooster, and he is in Japan!"
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Well, what else do we have?
The student : This is it, Shaykh. Excuse me, let us add to it the issue of the two kidneys. I have a daughter who has two kidneys in one kidney!
The Shaykh : How?
The student : In one kidney!
The Shaykh : One kidney?
The student : Two kidneys.
The Shaykh : Strange!
The student : It is known that every kidney has a ureter.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The student : They are two in one kidney on the left.
The Shaykh : Very good, and this is beneficial. But here comes the question: Are both of them working?
The student : Working, yes.
The Shaykh : Strange!!
The student : The two ureters? I don't know. No, I don't know!
The Shaykh : No, you need to know that!
The student : We will know it from the doctors.
The Shaykh : Ah, yes.
The student : I don't know, but in the image.
The Shaykh : Yes, two.
The student : Two ureters.
The Shaykh : Good, but this is the second time if the occasion arises.
The student : If Allah wills.
The Shaykh : You must know it.
The student : May Allah reward you with good. Yes, by Allah.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The student : May Allah reward you.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : I think it was the month of Rajab. Yes, indeed. This young man was among those who had studied modern sciences. So, did the Night Journey and Ascension take place with his body or with his soul? Of course, you know the answer: Yes, with his body and his soul. He said to me: "Is that reasonable?" He entered into the realm of reason. I spoke with him for a long time, but what is the point? I said to him: "I want to ask you some questions!"
The questioner : Oh Shaykh, we need to return to this issue of the soul and the body!
The Shaykh : Ah, I said to him: "I want to ask you: How many hearts does a human have?" He said: "One heart." I said to him: "I read in some magazines that a person was found whose heart was on the right side instead of the left. Is that reasonable?" He said: "Not reasonable." I said to him: "But this is a reality. Does it mean we deny reality because we have not witnessed it and it is not within our comprehension?"
The questioner : It is fixed in our minds like that.
The Shaykh: Huh?
The questioner : It is fixed in our minds that it is on the left.
The Shaykh : Yes, that it is only on the left side. I said to him: "That is one thing. The other: I also read that in a family, meaning a husband and wife with children, each of the husband and the offspring has two hearts, on the right and the left. Do you know this, so-and-so?" He said: "No." I said to him: "Do we deny it because we have not known it?" He remained silent. Finally, here is the point. I said to him: "We see roosters. A beautiful rooster has a tail like this, curved in a circle. Do you agree?" He said: "Yes." I said to him: "What do you think? I saw a picture of a rooster in a magazine, and they placed it on a wall. The height of the wall was three meters, and its tail reached the ground. This is the long beard, hehe. Do you know this?" He said: "No." We said to him: "But this is a reality. So, it is not for you, my brother, to come and deny something you have no knowledge of, because there are things that are outside the ordinary, natural matters, which are called in the language of custom: 'extraordinary events,' and in the language of the Shari'ah: either a 'karamah (a miracle granted to a righteous person)' or a 'mu'jizah (a prophetic miracle),' or a 'seduction' as it pertains to him. In this way, we stopped him from denying something established in the Shari'ah, which is the Night Journey of the Messenger (peace be upon him) and his Ascension with his soul and his body. And this reminded me of this long beard with the long tail of this rooster, and he is in Japan!"
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Well, what else do we have?
The student : This is it, Shaykh. Excuse me, let us add to it the issue of the two kidneys. I have a daughter who has two kidneys in one kidney!
The Shaykh : How?
The student : In one kidney!
The Shaykh : One kidney?
The student : Two kidneys.
The Shaykh : Strange!
The student : It is known that every kidney has a ureter.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The student : They are two in one kidney on the left.
The Shaykh : Very good, and this is beneficial. But here comes the question: Are both of them working?
The student : Working, yes.
The Shaykh : Strange!!
The student : The two ureters? I don't know. No, I don't know!
The Shaykh : No, you need to know that!
The student : We will know it from the doctors.
The Shaykh : Ah, yes.
The student : I don't know, but in the image.
The Shaykh : Yes, two.
The student : Two ureters.
The Shaykh : Good, but this is the second time if the occasion arises.
The student : If Allah wills.
The Shaykh : You must know it.
The student : May Allah reward you with good. Yes, by Allah.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The student : May Allah reward you.
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