The time for breaking the fast: is it based on the adhan or on the sun?
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The student: Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh: And peace be upon you. Welcome.
The questioner : So we do not know. We say that whoever says "I do not know" has issued a fatwa.
The Shaykh : I know, I know. So the person does not know.
The questioner : He does not learn.
The Shaykh : Yes, I know. Look, has the sun set or not?
The questioner : The sun in front of us has set, but it is possible that those behind us in ... can see it.
The Shaykh : And are we talking about those behind or those in front?
The questioner : We mean, based on the apparent evidence, O Shaykh. May Allah reward you with good and bless you.
The Shaykh : What Allah willed, what Allah willed. It is going to be a long lecture.
The student : Now I have come out. I am telling him, "You see the sun here," and he says, "No, we do not break our fast based on the sun. We break our fast based on the adhan. We go to the mosque."
The Shaykh : And does someone like him say such a thing?
The student : Not now.
The questioner : I did not say we break our fast with the adhan. We break our fast in the mosque when Allah calls. May Allah keep you well, O Abu 'Abdullah. Convey my words correctly. I am conveying them to the Shaykh.
The Shaykh : I am holding him to the fact that his words are true, meaning.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Even if we did not hear from you, what is the difference now between you and him? Bring it so we can see.
The questioner : That there are, meaning, Muslims and people.
The Shaykh : Where are they?
The questioner: In the mosque.
The Shaykh : That he.
The questioner : We break our fast with the Muslims and with the people ... from the fitnah (trial, discord or temptation).
The Shaykh : If you break your fast here with the Muslims.
The questioner : There is nothing. We break our fast. If we break our fast at home, we have brought a little.
The Shaykh : One by one. If you break your fast here with the Muslims.
The questioner : Where is it here?
The Shaykh : Here in your house.
The questioner : People will not see us. There is no fitnah (trial, discord or temptation), if Allah wills. We do not fear fitnah (trial, discord or temptation).
The Shaykh : We are now talking about fitnah (trial, discord or temptation). We are talking about the Shari'ah time for breaking the fast. Did you see it or not?
The questioner : I saw it.
The Shaykh : Okay, solve the issue of breaking the fast.
The questioner : Solve the issue of breaking the fast.
The Shaykh : We break our fast like this. We will be chosen like this. A wall.
The questioner : Hehehe. There is no objection, but we put the dates there ... May Allah reward you with good.
The student : The sun has now set.
Another student: He was in the mosque.
The student : The adhan is in a few minutes. A quarter of it has gone. He said, "I do not fast in Ramadan ... ."
The questioner : Does the fasting person break his fast, O Shaykh?
The Shaykh : Yes, how could he not?
The questioner : Now the horizon is on the mountain.
The Shaykh : Look at the night.
The questioner : The length of the night.
The Shaykh : It is the night. The doctor also says this.
The questioner : May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh: There is no power nor strength except with Allah.
The questioner : The mountain, because it is the mountain.
The Shaykh : May Allah guide you, May Allah guide you.
The questioner : Amen. O Allah, Amen.
The Shaykh : We were talking. Look at the night. You say, where is the night?
The questioner : I did not see night.
The Shaykh: May Allah guide you.
The questioner: Amen.
The Shaykh : Okay, you are now reminding me of the story of that al-Hazbi who says that looking at a picture of a woman is permissible, but looking at a woman face-to-face is not permissible. So I was saying, "They claimed that a young man stood up to prepare to leave for school and stopped in front of the mirror. He started washing his face, combing his hair, and so on. He saw an image in the mirror. It appeared like this, and his neighbor, who is also a student at the school, was combing her hair and so on. He would look like this to satisfy his sexual desire. This is halal (lawful)."
The questioner : Halal (lawful).
The Shaykh : But if he does this, it is haram (forbidden) for you, my brother. The picture is clear. So now you see the light here.
The questioner : Yes, light. Yes, light.
The Shaykh : You see it here.
The questioner : No, I do not see it.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner : This is the light, I mean, excuse me.
The Shaykh : Listen, may Allah guide you.
The questioner : We need to learn. Yes. May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : Look at this light.
The questioner : Yes, I see it.
The Shaykh : Okay, you see it here.
The questioner : No, I do not see it.
The Shaykh : This darkness here, you see it. The Shaykh's donkey stopped at al-'Aqabah.
The questioner : I see it.
The Shaykh : Okay, call it "A."
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : I am going along with you. I will not explain it to you. Darkness. Call it what you want from your side.
The questioner : Meaning, close to darkness.
The Shaykh : Yes, close to darkness.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : I am saying close to darkness. Okay.
The questioner : Yes, yes.
The Shaykh : And you are talking about certainty.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : You are talking about certainty.
The questioner : Yes, I am talking about certainty.
The Shaykh : Not going along with the Shaykh.
The questioner : No, he is not going along with the Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Okay, this which you call "close to darkness," do you see it here?
The questioner : No, I do not see it.
The Shaykh : This is what the Messenger (peace be upon him) said about:Riyad as-Salihin 1236 The night has come in, not entered the night, Riyad as-Salihin 1236 The day has gone away. Do you see it turning away little by little? Sahih al-Bukhari 1954 O people, fear Allah. You are misleading people with this confusion.
The questioner : ... now because it is a mountain. If it were in the desert, I saw it in the desert in Saudi Arabia. And I was walking, I see the sun actually going down. Please.
The Shaykh: And peace be upon you. Welcome.
The questioner : So we do not know. We say that whoever says "I do not know" has issued a fatwa.
The Shaykh : I know, I know. So the person does not know.
The questioner : He does not learn.
The Shaykh : Yes, I know. Look, has the sun set or not?
The questioner : The sun in front of us has set, but it is possible that those behind us in ... can see it.
The Shaykh : And are we talking about those behind or those in front?
The questioner : We mean, based on the apparent evidence, O Shaykh. May Allah reward you with good and bless you.
The Shaykh : What Allah willed, what Allah willed. It is going to be a long lecture.
The student : Now I have come out. I am telling him, "You see the sun here," and he says, "No, we do not break our fast based on the sun. We break our fast based on the adhan. We go to the mosque."
The Shaykh : And does someone like him say such a thing?
The student : Not now.
The questioner : I did not say we break our fast with the adhan. We break our fast in the mosque when Allah calls. May Allah keep you well, O Abu 'Abdullah. Convey my words correctly. I am conveying them to the Shaykh.
The Shaykh : I am holding him to the fact that his words are true, meaning.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Even if we did not hear from you, what is the difference now between you and him? Bring it so we can see.
The questioner : That there are, meaning, Muslims and people.
The Shaykh : Where are they?
The questioner: In the mosque.
The Shaykh : That he.
The questioner : We break our fast with the Muslims and with the people ... from the fitnah (trial, discord or temptation).
The Shaykh : If you break your fast here with the Muslims.
The questioner : There is nothing. We break our fast. If we break our fast at home, we have brought a little.
The Shaykh : One by one. If you break your fast here with the Muslims.
The questioner : Where is it here?
The Shaykh : Here in your house.
The questioner : People will not see us. There is no fitnah (trial, discord or temptation), if Allah wills. We do not fear fitnah (trial, discord or temptation).
The Shaykh : We are now talking about fitnah (trial, discord or temptation). We are talking about the Shari'ah time for breaking the fast. Did you see it or not?
The questioner : I saw it.
The Shaykh : Okay, solve the issue of breaking the fast.
The questioner : Solve the issue of breaking the fast.
The Shaykh : We break our fast like this. We will be chosen like this. A wall.
The questioner : Hehehe. There is no objection, but we put the dates there ... May Allah reward you with good.
The student : The sun has now set.
Another student: He was in the mosque.
The student : The adhan is in a few minutes. A quarter of it has gone. He said, "I do not fast in Ramadan ... ."
The questioner : Does the fasting person break his fast, O Shaykh?
The Shaykh : Yes, how could he not?
The questioner : Now the horizon is on the mountain.
The Shaykh : Look at the night.
The questioner : The length of the night.
The Shaykh : It is the night. The doctor also says this.
The questioner : May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh: There is no power nor strength except with Allah.
The questioner : The mountain, because it is the mountain.
The Shaykh : May Allah guide you, May Allah guide you.
The questioner : Amen. O Allah, Amen.
The Shaykh : We were talking. Look at the night. You say, where is the night?
The questioner : I did not see night.
The Shaykh: May Allah guide you.
The questioner: Amen.
The Shaykh : Okay, you are now reminding me of the story of that al-Hazbi who says that looking at a picture of a woman is permissible, but looking at a woman face-to-face is not permissible. So I was saying, "They claimed that a young man stood up to prepare to leave for school and stopped in front of the mirror. He started washing his face, combing his hair, and so on. He saw an image in the mirror. It appeared like this, and his neighbor, who is also a student at the school, was combing her hair and so on. He would look like this to satisfy his sexual desire. This is halal (lawful)."
The questioner : Halal (lawful).
The Shaykh : But if he does this, it is haram (forbidden) for you, my brother. The picture is clear. So now you see the light here.
The questioner : Yes, light. Yes, light.
The Shaykh : You see it here.
The questioner : No, I do not see it.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner : This is the light, I mean, excuse me.
The Shaykh : Listen, may Allah guide you.
The questioner : We need to learn. Yes. May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : Look at this light.
The questioner : Yes, I see it.
The Shaykh : Okay, you see it here.
The questioner : No, I do not see it.
The Shaykh : This darkness here, you see it. The Shaykh's donkey stopped at al-'Aqabah.
The questioner : I see it.
The Shaykh : Okay, call it "A."
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : I am going along with you. I will not explain it to you. Darkness. Call it what you want from your side.
The questioner : Meaning, close to darkness.
The Shaykh : Yes, close to darkness.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : I am saying close to darkness. Okay.
The questioner : Yes, yes.
The Shaykh : And you are talking about certainty.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : You are talking about certainty.
The questioner : Yes, I am talking about certainty.
The Shaykh : Not going along with the Shaykh.
The questioner : No, he is not going along with the Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Okay, this which you call "close to darkness," do you see it here?
The questioner : No, I do not see it.
The Shaykh : This is what the Messenger (peace be upon him) said about:
When the night approaches from this side
إذا أقبل الليل من ههناWhen the night approaches from this side (i.e., the east) and the day retreats from that side (i.e., west)
أقبل الليل من ههنا ، وأدبر النهار من ههناand the sun sets, then the fasting person should break his fast.
وغربت الشمس ؛ فقد أفطر الصائمThe questioner : ... now because it is a mountain. If it were in the desert, I saw it in the desert in Saudi Arabia. And I was walking, I see the sun actually going down. Please.
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