Continuation of the first discussion regarding the man's claim that revelation is sent to him, whereas it was not revealed to him.
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The Shaykh : ... you have to bear them ... Are you following the Messenger in this?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Excuse me, may Allah bless you ... And if ... .
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : ... concerned for the group ... .
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Anything is possible, but the questions are direct and the answers are direct, so are you an innovator or a follower in this specific matter?
The questioner : I am not an innovator ... .
The Shaykh : The negative answer. As for the positive answer, I am a follower ... the same answer ... and every time I am a follower and not an innovator. I am repeating the question that you have repeated many times: I am not an innovator, why don't you say so upfront? I am a follower. This is the style that we warn against and fear will waste our time. You want to say I am not an innovator and I am a follower ... please go ahead.
Another questioner: ... one point, or a word, or a hadith, or a gesture, or ... .
The questioner : What, and He revealed to me this Qur'an that I may warn you thereby, and whoever it reaches ... .
Another questioner: And He revealed to him this Qur'an ... .
The Shaykh : You are infallible, may Allah bless you, by your testimony ... repeatedly and again, despite the warning. This is not revelation to you. This is revelation that was revealed to Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him). The one who claimed that revelation was revealed to him anew is the one who preceded the claim of Mahdism, then the Isa'iyah, and he is Mirza Ghulam Ahmad al-Qadiyani.
The questioner : I do not know.
The Shaykh : Perhaps you are influenced by some of his books, and Allah knows best?
The questioner : I have not heard ... .
The Shaykh : ... the source is one, in truth, because he claimed that the Qur'an was revealed to him anew ... .
The questioner : ... I did not claim that it was revealed to me!
The Shaykh : That is what you said!
The questioner : It was not revealed to me anew. It was revealed to me what was revealed to me.
The Shaykh : Allahu Akbar. I made a mistake. It was revealed to you anew. Is there a difference, my brothers, between "it was revealed to me" and "it was revealed to me anew"? We withdraw it, my master. It was revealed to you anew. These are the same verses ... As for us, it was not revealed to us!
The questioner : No, some of you who want to follow it, follow it!
The Shaykh : ... a revelation from the Lord of the worlds, so that you distinguish between the Qur'an being revealed, and it was revealed to your heart. How do you distinguish between "it was revealed" ... .
The questioner : There is a great difference!
The Shaykh : What Allah willed.
The questioner : It was revealed by revelation, and before it was revealed, it was not descending. Now it is among the people and in our hands, descending, but it is revealed to me ... .
The Shaykh : ... it was revealed and it was not revealed ... .
The questioner : The Noble Qur'an which ... Allah, Glorified and Exalted is He, revealed. My Lord, Glorified and Exalted is He, revealed it to our Master Muhammad by revelation, and it became a text, words, existing among the people now. It does not need to be revealed anew. No, it is revealed or not revealed. The revelation of our Lord, Glorified and Exalted is He, from ... differs from person to person ... .
The Shaykh : ... I understood, and our Lord ... .
The questioner : And our Lord says:[Taha 20:114] .
The Shaykh : The transmitter of disbelief is not a disbeliever ... .
The questioner : ... Qurayshi ... .
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : There is no power and no strength except by Allah.
Another questioner: Shaykh, we just want this verse ... .
The questioner : You are not satisfied, my master ... .
Another questioner: He ... let them ... .
The Shaykh : ... how ... may Allah bless you.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Excuse me, may Allah bless you ... And if ... .
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : ... concerned for the group ... .
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Anything is possible, but the questions are direct and the answers are direct, so are you an innovator or a follower in this specific matter?
The questioner : I am not an innovator ... .
The Shaykh : The negative answer. As for the positive answer, I am a follower ... the same answer ... and every time I am a follower and not an innovator. I am repeating the question that you have repeated many times: I am not an innovator, why don't you say so upfront? I am a follower. This is the style that we warn against and fear will waste our time. You want to say I am not an innovator and I am a follower ... please go ahead.
Another questioner: ... one point, or a word, or a hadith, or a gesture, or ... .
The questioner : What, and He revealed to me this Qur'an that I may warn you thereby, and whoever it reaches ... .
Another questioner: And He revealed to him this Qur'an ... .
The Shaykh : You are infallible, may Allah bless you, by your testimony ... repeatedly and again, despite the warning. This is not revelation to you. This is revelation that was revealed to Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him). The one who claimed that revelation was revealed to him anew is the one who preceded the claim of Mahdism, then the Isa'iyah, and he is Mirza Ghulam Ahmad al-Qadiyani.
The questioner : I do not know.
The Shaykh : Perhaps you are influenced by some of his books, and Allah knows best?
The questioner : I have not heard ... .
The Shaykh : ... the source is one, in truth, because he claimed that the Qur'an was revealed to him anew ... .
The questioner : ... I did not claim that it was revealed to me!
The Shaykh : That is what you said!
The questioner : It was not revealed to me anew. It was revealed to me what was revealed to me.
The Shaykh : Allahu Akbar. I made a mistake. It was revealed to you anew. Is there a difference, my brothers, between "it was revealed to me" and "it was revealed to me anew"? We withdraw it, my master. It was revealed to you anew. These are the same verses ... As for us, it was not revealed to us!
The questioner : No, some of you who want to follow it, follow it!
The Shaykh : ... a revelation from the Lord of the worlds, so that you distinguish between the Qur'an being revealed, and it was revealed to your heart. How do you distinguish between "it was revealed" ... .
The questioner : There is a great difference!
The Shaykh : What Allah willed.
The questioner : It was revealed by revelation, and before it was revealed, it was not descending. Now it is among the people and in our hands, descending, but it is revealed to me ... .
The Shaykh : ... it was revealed and it was not revealed ... .
The questioner : The Noble Qur'an which ... Allah, Glorified and Exalted is He, revealed. My Lord, Glorified and Exalted is He, revealed it to our Master Muhammad by revelation, and it became a text, words, existing among the people now. It does not need to be revealed anew. No, it is revealed or not revealed. The revelation of our Lord, Glorified and Exalted is He, from ... differs from person to person ... .
The Shaykh : ... I understood, and our Lord ... .
The questioner : And our Lord says:
do not hasten with [recitation of] the Qur'an before its revelation is completed to you
ولا تعجل بالقرآن من قبل أن يقضى إليه وحيهThe Shaykh : The transmitter of disbelief is not a disbeliever ... .
The questioner : ... Qurayshi ... .
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : There is no power and no strength except by Allah.
Another questioner: Shaykh, we just want this verse ... .
The questioner : You are not satisfied, my master ... .
Another questioner: He ... let them ... .
The Shaykh : ... how ... may Allah bless you.