An interjection from one of the attendees.

The questioner : I want to say something regarding what has passed. I mentioned when you asked me whether they differ from us in creed or are with us. I told you that, as far as I can see, they are with us in creed, and that they differ only in methodology. And I believe that creed is part of methodology. But I said that you asked for a position, and I told you that some statements have appeared from them which we think touch upon creed. It is not that they adopt the creed of the Khawarij, may Allah protect us, and we do not accuse them of that. I do not think that someone like Salman, who is intelligent and educated, would adopt such a false, invalid creed. But in this specific instance, in my opinion, Shaykh—and I may be wrong—in my opinion, this instance is the creed of the Khawarij. This is the instance. For this reason, I am saying this is an error.

The Shaykh : Pardon me, what do you mean by this instance?

The questioner : The instance I mentioned to you regarding the one who belittles sin.

The Shaykh : My brother, we explained that belittling can be in the heart, and we said that the tongue of the heart is more eloquent than the tongue of speech. So you can consider him wrong in this specific detail, but you do not consider him wrong in the general principle.

The questioner : No, I do not consider him wrong in the general principle.

The Shaykh : Then leave it.

The questioner : I am saying this specific detail, Shaykh. This specific detail, and this statement, is the creed of the Khawarij.

The Shaykh : It is not a creed, this is a ruling.

The questioner : This, this.

The Shaykh : This is the ruling.

The questioner : What I understood from his words is that he does not judge a man by his own mind. He categorizes people into groups and says that the ruling for this group is such and such; they are eternal in the Fire. And I see that this is an error. One should not judge that Salman adopts the creed of the Khawarij, especially since, as you mentioned, Shaykh, we hear from him and others that they distance themselves from the Khawarij, and that they have positions and so on, and this is without doubt. But I only wanted to hear from you about one of the instances that we fear Satan will lead them astray in the future, especially since they differ from us in methodology.

The Shaykh : That was not the request, my brother. May Allah reward you.

The questioner : This is what I understood, Shaykh.

The Shaykh : That was not the request. May Allah reward you.

The questioner : Yes.

The Shaykh : You are free to speak whatever you wish, but you are not free to answer what was not asked. You are free to speak whatever you wish, but our question was clear and was repeated to your ears. Give us...