The Meaning of the Poet's Statement: (The Meaning of Attributes) And if he denies both matters, then ask him: *** Did His Essence suffice without the creations? For that reason, did He subsist by Himself or by...
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The Shaykh :"And if he denies both matters ***"
What are the two matters? He said that He did not become present in the people, and the people did not become present in His Essence.
"So ask him then: *** Did His Essence suffice without the creations?"
"For that reason, did He subsist by Himself or by *** the entities, like attributes and colors?"
This means: ask him whether He subsisted by Himself or by other than Himself. We have now reached a stage after the dispute; we have reached the stage that He is outside the creations, that He is a singular Essence outside the creations. The issue now is whether He subsisted by Himself or by other than Himself. For this reason, he said:
"And if he denies both matters, then ask him: *** Did His Essence suffice without the creations?"
This is an expression for the fact that He subsisted by Himself.
"For that reason, did He subsist by Himself or by *** the entities, like attributes and colors?"
Attributes exist in entities. For example, illness is an attribute that subsists in a specific body. Color, such as whiteness and blackness, is also an attribute that subsists in what? In the entity. Good.
What are the two matters? He said that He did not become present in the people, and the people did not become present in His Essence.
"So ask him then: *** Did His Essence suffice without the creations?"
"For that reason, did He subsist by Himself or by *** the entities, like attributes and colors?"
This means: ask him whether He subsisted by Himself or by other than Himself. We have now reached a stage after the dispute; we have reached the stage that He is outside the creations, that He is a singular Essence outside the creations. The issue now is whether He subsisted by Himself or by other than Himself. For this reason, he said:
"And if he denies both matters, then ask him: *** Did His Essence suffice without the creations?"
This is an expression for the fact that He subsisted by Himself.
"For that reason, did He subsist by Himself or by *** the entities, like attributes and colors?"
Attributes exist in entities. For example, illness is an attribute that subsists in a specific body. Color, such as whiteness and blackness, is also an attribute that subsists in what? In the entity. Good.