The Meaning of the Poet's Statement: (And an explanation of Ibn al-Qayyim's opinion on reconciling the two preceding verses) And both of them, in my view, are in one day *** And their ascent therein to the Judge
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The Shaykh : The author (may Allah have mercy on him) said
"And both of them, in my view, are in one day ***"
"Both of them"—the pronoun refers to the day mentioned in the revelation of the prostration and the day mentioned in the question of the pure one
"*** And their ascent therein to the Judge"
"So the thousand is the distance of their descent *** And their ascent toward the Exalted, the Near"
"This is the sky, for it has been measured *** As fifty times ten, and this is two doubles"
Okay, he says...
"So the thousand is the distance, the distance of their descent *** And their ascent toward the Exalted, the Near"
"This is the sky, for it has been measured *** As fifty times ten, and this is two doubles"
"*** As fifty times ten"
How much is five hundred? This ascent is five hundred, this descent is five hundred, this makes a thousand, and that is why he said
"*** And this is two doubles" Why did they become two doubles? Because it is between an ascent and a descent
"But the fifty thousand is the distance of the seven *** Firmaments, and after that, the worlds"
"From the Throne of the Lord of the Worlds to the earth *** At the lowest, bottommost point"
He means that the fifty thousand mentioned in the question refers to what is between the lowest earth and the Throne, which is fifty thousand. Good, how is that? Yes
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Good, how is that? If we say that the earths are seven, and the distance of each earth is five hundred
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Five hundred years, yes, five hundred years, as the total is
The student: ...
Another student: Thirty-five... meaning four thousand and five hundred
The Shaykh : Three thousand and five hundred... seven earths times fifty
The student: Three thousand times five hundred
The Shaykh : Three thousand times five hundred, three thousand and five hundred
The student: ... three hundred and fifty thousand
The Shaykh : No, my brother
The student: Fifty thousand...
The Shaykh : Seven earths, each earth is five hundred
The student: Five hundred...
The Shaykh : Yes, yes, each earth is five hundred, the total is three thousand and five hundred. Good, add to it five hundred, which is between the sky and the earth
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Wait, add to it five hundred, then divide it
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Good, and between the second sky and the first is five hundred, meaning, for example, the seven skies are seven thousand. The skies are seven thousand, considering what is between each sky and sky, and the thickness or density of each sky is seven times five hundred, three thousand and fifty, yes, three thousand and five hundred, and seven times five hundred is three thousand and five hundred, the total is seven thousand. How much is with the earth?
The student: Three thousand and five hundred
The Shaykh : Three thousand and five hundred, this is ten thousand and five hundred. Good, and some scholars say that the thickness of each earth is five hundred
The student: Seven thousand...
The Shaykh : Fourteen, fourteen. We have fifty remaining. We need to reach fifty. Six and thirty. They say that between the seventh sky and the Throne
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Or the Throne. They say the Throne. Good, where do we get this from? I mean, where do we get from that between the seventh sky and the Throne is six and thirty? But if they want to complete the number, we do not know, to make it fifty. And for this reason, whenever I reflect on this statement, I find it very weak. And the fifty thousand, the measure by which it is measured in the question, is not by distance, but by duration, by the length of time, meaning its amount is fifty thousand years, yes, this is considering the length, not the distance. And this matter is clear. And for this reason, Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allah have mercy on him) in al-Mi'yar, in al-Mi'yar, he hesitated in al-Mi'yar and said that it had become difficult for him
"And both of them, in my view, are in one day ***"
"Both of them"—the pronoun refers to the day mentioned in the revelation of the prostration and the day mentioned in the question of the pure one
"*** And their ascent therein to the Judge"
"So the thousand is the distance of their descent *** And their ascent toward the Exalted, the Near"
"This is the sky, for it has been measured *** As fifty times ten, and this is two doubles"
Okay, he says...
"So the thousand is the distance, the distance of their descent *** And their ascent toward the Exalted, the Near"
"This is the sky, for it has been measured *** As fifty times ten, and this is two doubles"
"*** As fifty times ten"
How much is five hundred? This ascent is five hundred, this descent is five hundred, this makes a thousand, and that is why he said
"*** And this is two doubles" Why did they become two doubles? Because it is between an ascent and a descent
"But the fifty thousand is the distance of the seven *** Firmaments, and after that, the worlds"
"From the Throne of the Lord of the Worlds to the earth *** At the lowest, bottommost point"
He means that the fifty thousand mentioned in the question refers to what is between the lowest earth and the Throne, which is fifty thousand. Good, how is that? Yes
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Good, how is that? If we say that the earths are seven, and the distance of each earth is five hundred
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Five hundred years, yes, five hundred years, as the total is
The student: ...
Another student: Thirty-five... meaning four thousand and five hundred
The Shaykh : Three thousand and five hundred... seven earths times fifty
The student: Three thousand times five hundred
The Shaykh : Three thousand times five hundred, three thousand and five hundred
The student: ... three hundred and fifty thousand
The Shaykh : No, my brother
The student: Fifty thousand...
The Shaykh : Seven earths, each earth is five hundred
The student: Five hundred...
The Shaykh : Yes, yes, each earth is five hundred, the total is three thousand and five hundred. Good, add to it five hundred, which is between the sky and the earth
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Wait, add to it five hundred, then divide it
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Good, and between the second sky and the first is five hundred, meaning, for example, the seven skies are seven thousand. The skies are seven thousand, considering what is between each sky and sky, and the thickness or density of each sky is seven times five hundred, three thousand and fifty, yes, three thousand and five hundred, and seven times five hundred is three thousand and five hundred, the total is seven thousand. How much is with the earth?
The student: Three thousand and five hundred
The Shaykh : Three thousand and five hundred, this is ten thousand and five hundred. Good, and some scholars say that the thickness of each earth is five hundred
The student: Seven thousand...
The Shaykh : Fourteen, fourteen. We have fifty remaining. We need to reach fifty. Six and thirty. They say that between the seventh sky and the Throne
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Or the Throne. They say the Throne. Good, where do we get this from? I mean, where do we get from that between the seventh sky and the Throne is six and thirty? But if they want to complete the number, we do not know, to make it fifty. And for this reason, whenever I reflect on this statement, I find it very weak. And the fifty thousand, the measure by which it is measured in the question, is not by distance, but by duration, by the length of time, meaning its amount is fifty thousand years, yes, this is considering the length, not the distance. And this matter is clear. And for this reason, Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allah have mercy on him) in al-Mi'yar, in al-Mi'yar, he hesitated in al-Mi'yar and said that it had become difficult for him