What is the ruling on the forgetfulness of the ma'mum in his prayer with the imam?
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The questioner : O Shaykh, there is a question.
The Shaykh : Please proceed.
The questioner : If the ma'mum forgets regarding a pillar, such as the final tashahhud, or an obligatory act, such as the tasbih or saying "O Lord, forgive me," among these things, and he caught up with the imam from the first rak'ah.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : What do we say about this?
The Shaykh : May Allah bless you. If he forgets and leaves out an obligatory act, and he caught up with the imam from the beginning of the prayer, then the imam bears the sujud al-sahw for him, and he owes nothing. But if he leaves out a pillar, he must perform the pillar. If he performs the pillar, he then prostrates for forgetfulness afterwards, because he will not be able to perform the pillar until after the imam's taslim. Do you understand?
The questioner : The final tashahhud, for example?
The Shaykh : For example, if he forgot the final tashahhud and stood up to pray until the imam said the taslim, yes, we say he must recite it now.
The questioner : The imam said the taslim.
The Shaykh : He must recite it first, a complete recitation, and then say the taslim, because here he did not contradict the imam; he only delayed after him, and he does not owe the sujud al-sahw.
The questioner : And if he forgot once...
The Shaykh : Huh?
The questioner : If he said the taslim with the imam?
The Shaykh : And did not prostrate?
The questioner : No, he said the taslim with the imam.
The Shaykh : And did not prostrate, he said the taslim with the imam.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : And he was only leaving out the final tashahhud?
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : And did he recite the tashahhud or did he not recite it?
The questioner : He did not recite the tashahhud, he stands for a complete rak'ah.
The Shaykh : Huh?
The questioner : He stands for a complete rak'ah?
The Shaykh : No, he does not recite the tashahhud only.
The questioner : He said the taslim with the imam, and it is finished.
The Shaykh : Yes, if he said the taslim, he returns to the prayer, recites the tashahhud, and says the taslim.
The questioner : Okay, and if he did not prostrate the sujud al-sahw?
The Shaykh : I told you, if he did not miss anything, he does not owe the sujud al-sahw.
The questioner : No, if he intentionally missed, for example, an obligatory act, and did not prostrate the sujud?
The Shaykh : If he intentionally leaves out an obligatory act, his prayer is invalid, it is invalid in principle, he must repeat it from the beginning.
The questioner : May Allah help you.
The Shaykh : Okay, please go ahead.
The questioner : Last week.
The Shaykh : Yasar.
The Shaykh : Please proceed.
The questioner : If the ma'mum forgets regarding a pillar, such as the final tashahhud, or an obligatory act, such as the tasbih or saying "O Lord, forgive me," among these things, and he caught up with the imam from the first rak'ah.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : What do we say about this?
The Shaykh : May Allah bless you. If he forgets and leaves out an obligatory act, and he caught up with the imam from the beginning of the prayer, then the imam bears the sujud al-sahw for him, and he owes nothing. But if he leaves out a pillar, he must perform the pillar. If he performs the pillar, he then prostrates for forgetfulness afterwards, because he will not be able to perform the pillar until after the imam's taslim. Do you understand?
The questioner : The final tashahhud, for example?
The Shaykh : For example, if he forgot the final tashahhud and stood up to pray until the imam said the taslim, yes, we say he must recite it now.
The questioner : The imam said the taslim.
The Shaykh : He must recite it first, a complete recitation, and then say the taslim, because here he did not contradict the imam; he only delayed after him, and he does not owe the sujud al-sahw.
The questioner : And if he forgot once...
The Shaykh : Huh?
The questioner : If he said the taslim with the imam?
The Shaykh : And did not prostrate?
The questioner : No, he said the taslim with the imam.
The Shaykh : And did not prostrate, he said the taslim with the imam.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : And he was only leaving out the final tashahhud?
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : And did he recite the tashahhud or did he not recite it?
The questioner : He did not recite the tashahhud, he stands for a complete rak'ah.
The Shaykh : Huh?
The questioner : He stands for a complete rak'ah?
The Shaykh : No, he does not recite the tashahhud only.
The questioner : He said the taslim with the imam, and it is finished.
The Shaykh : Yes, if he said the taslim, he returns to the prayer, recites the tashahhud, and says the taslim.
The questioner : Okay, and if he did not prostrate the sujud al-sahw?
The Shaykh : I told you, if he did not miss anything, he does not owe the sujud al-sahw.
The questioner : No, if he intentionally missed, for example, an obligatory act, and did not prostrate the sujud?
The Shaykh : If he intentionally leaves out an obligatory act, his prayer is invalid, it is invalid in principle, he must repeat it from the beginning.
The questioner : May Allah help you.
The Shaykh : Okay, please go ahead.
The questioner : Last week.
The Shaykh : Yasar.