How do we distinguish between argumentation and discussion? And when does a discussion cease to be a discussion and become argumentation?
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The questioner : May Allah forgive you. How do we distinguish between argumentation and discussion, and when does a discussion cease to be a discussion and become argumentation?
The Shaykh : Yes. Argumentation is a type of discussion, or rather, discussion is the broader term. Argumentation is when a person argues in order to defeat his opponent, whereas discussion is when one inquires, seeks to understand the meaning and knowledge, and the like.
However, if argumentation is mere contention, that is forbidden. If the intention behind the argumentation is to win for oneself, whether by right or by wrong, that is not permissible. But if the argumentation is to reach the truth and refute falsehood, that is a right that is commanded.
So we now have contention, argumentation, and discussion. Contention is arguing in order for one’s own opinion to prevail.
Argumentation is arguing in order for the truth to prevail.
As for the third, discussion, one may discuss with his teacher in order to clarify the knowledge and clarify the aspect of the ruling. This is also permissible. And with this, this session ends, because the time has come and Musa is gesturing to leave. We ask Allah to benefit us with what He has taught us, if Allah wills. Until the session after Ramadan and the fasting of the six days, if Allah wills.
The Shaykh : Yes. Argumentation is a type of discussion, or rather, discussion is the broader term. Argumentation is when a person argues in order to defeat his opponent, whereas discussion is when one inquires, seeks to understand the meaning and knowledge, and the like.
However, if argumentation is mere contention, that is forbidden. If the intention behind the argumentation is to win for oneself, whether by right or by wrong, that is not permissible. But if the argumentation is to reach the truth and refute falsehood, that is a right that is commanded.
So we now have contention, argumentation, and discussion. Contention is arguing in order for one’s own opinion to prevail.
Argumentation is arguing in order for the truth to prevail.
As for the third, discussion, one may discuss with his teacher in order to clarify the knowledge and clarify the aspect of the ruling. This is also permissible. And with this, this session ends, because the time has come and Musa is gesturing to leave. We ask Allah to benefit us with what He has taught us, if Allah wills. Until the session after Ramadan and the fasting of the six days, if Allah wills.