Explanation of the statement of Ibn Malik (may Allah have mercy on him): "So say, regarding the first, in Thamud, 'Ya *** Thumu,' and regarding the second, 'Ya Thami' with a ya."
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The Shaykh :"So say, regarding the first, in Thamud, 'Ya *** Thumu,' and regarding the second, 'Ya Thami' with a ya"
"So say, regarding the first," meaning which first? When you intend, after deleting what was deleted, meaning according to the language of those who expect [the vowel], you say in Thamud, "Ya Thumu," "Ya Thumu." So we say that "Thumu" is a vocative noun, built on a presumed dammah at its end, the appearance of which was prevented by the occupation of the position. Here?
The student: By the movement of expectation.
The Shaykh : By the movement of expectation, correct?
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : But do we have a movement?
The student: Silent.
The Shaykh : It is static in any case, so the heaviness prevented its appearance. The heaviness prevented its appearance, because even if it were according to the language of those who expect, it is not difficult in its state.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : No, the heaviness.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Yes, we have the waw and the ya. The movements are prevented from appearing by the heaviness. "Ya Thumu," and say, regarding the second, with a ya, "Ya Thami." What is the second?
The student: The language of those who do not expect.
The Shaykh : The language of those who do not expect. If someone asks: Why did we say "Ya Thami" and not "Ya Thumu"? They say: Because there is no inflected noun ending in a waw with a dammah before it. There is no inflected noun ending in a waw with a dammah before it. As for built nouns, there are some, like "huwa" (he), but an inflected one is absolutely impossible. Yes, and in non-Arabic, there are some, like "Qamando," "Qamando," here?
The student: These are called ...
The Shaykh : And "Samando," here?
The student: These are called ...
The Shaykh : These are transferred nouns, transferred nouns. There is no inflected noun ending in a waw with a dammah before it. Therefore, they say that in "Thumu," according to the language of those who do not expect, you must make it "Ya Thami." You make it defective by the ya, because defectiveness by the ya is common, like "Qadi" (judge), "Da'i" (caller), "Hadi" (guide), and the like. Now, how do we inflect it on this basis? We say: "Ya" is the particle of vocative, and "Thami" is a vocative noun, reduced, built on a presumed dammah at its end, the appearance of which was prevented by what? The heaviness, because it is a ya. Now, other than Thamud? "Masakin" (poor), we say in it "Ya Masak" according to the language of?
The student: According to the language of those who expect.
The Shaykh : Those who expect. "Ya Masak" according to the language of those who do not expect.
"So say, regarding the first," meaning which first? When you intend, after deleting what was deleted, meaning according to the language of those who expect [the vowel], you say in Thamud, "Ya Thumu," "Ya Thumu." So we say that "Thumu" is a vocative noun, built on a presumed dammah at its end, the appearance of which was prevented by the occupation of the position. Here?
The student: By the movement of expectation.
The Shaykh : By the movement of expectation, correct?
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : But do we have a movement?
The student: Silent.
The Shaykh : It is static in any case, so the heaviness prevented its appearance. The heaviness prevented its appearance, because even if it were according to the language of those who expect, it is not difficult in its state.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : No, the heaviness.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Yes, we have the waw and the ya. The movements are prevented from appearing by the heaviness. "Ya Thumu," and say, regarding the second, with a ya, "Ya Thami." What is the second?
The student: The language of those who do not expect.
The Shaykh : The language of those who do not expect. If someone asks: Why did we say "Ya Thami" and not "Ya Thumu"? They say: Because there is no inflected noun ending in a waw with a dammah before it. There is no inflected noun ending in a waw with a dammah before it. As for built nouns, there are some, like "huwa" (he), but an inflected one is absolutely impossible. Yes, and in non-Arabic, there are some, like "Qamando," "Qamando," here?
The student: These are called ...
The Shaykh : And "Samando," here?
The student: These are called ...
The Shaykh : These are transferred nouns, transferred nouns. There is no inflected noun ending in a waw with a dammah before it. Therefore, they say that in "Thumu," according to the language of those who do not expect, you must make it "Ya Thami." You make it defective by the ya, because defectiveness by the ya is common, like "Qadi" (judge), "Da'i" (caller), "Hadi" (guide), and the like. Now, how do we inflect it on this basis? We say: "Ya" is the particle of vocative, and "Thami" is a vocative noun, reduced, built on a presumed dammah at its end, the appearance of which was prevented by what? The heaviness, because it is a ya. Now, other than Thamud? "Masakin" (poor), we say in it "Ya Masak" according to the language of?
The student: According to the language of those who expect.
The Shaykh : Those who expect. "Ya Masak" according to the language of those who do not expect.