Did it reach us from 'Umar ibn al-Khattab that he heard wailing and lamentation, so he entered the place of the sound, and there was a woman, so he struck her, and her head covering fell off, and he said:

The questioner : Shaykh, there is a narration from 'Umar ibn al-Khattab that he passed by and heard wailing and lamentation, so he entered the place of the sound, and there was a woman, so he struck her, and her head covering fell off, and he said: Strike her, for she has no sanctity, for she forbids patience, and our Lord commands it. Is that correct?

The Shaykh : We do not yet know whether it is correct or not.

The questioner : She forbids and commands despair, and Allah forbids it. So is this narration authentic or not?

The Shaykh : By Allah, I do not remember, I do not know. But if the narration is authentic, or assuming it is authentic, what is established based on it?

The questioner : Just, I mean, the prohibition of lamentation and wailing, just that.

The Shaykh : The prohibition of lamentation, we have authentic hadiths regarding it.

The questioner : Because I read...

The Shaykh : Suppose the story has no basis. There are explicit hadiths in al-Bukhari and Muslim regarding the prohibition of lamentation and that it remains ; so we are in no need of this report. But if it is authentic, it is light upon light. However, what has come in the Sunnah, praise be to Allah, is sufficient and enough for all of this.