If the imam forgets the middle sitting and stands up "fully upright," and the people remind him by saying Subhan Allah, and he returns, what is obligatory upon him?
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The questioner : The question has two parts, if you please. If the imam forgets the middle sitting and stands up fully upright, and the people remind him by saying Subhan Allah, and he returns, what is obligatory upon him? This is the first part?
The Shaykh : What is obligatory upon them and not upon him?
The questioner : Upon the imam, of course, since they are following the imam.
The Shaykh : Do you want to finish your question, or should I answer you about this?
The questioner : After we are done with this, we will come to the second part.
The Shaykh : He is not required to do anything other than the prostration for forgetfulness, and there is no evidence for the claim that the prayer is invalid. He made a mistake and forgot, because it was obligatory for him that when he forgot the tashahhud, if he had already stood up fully upright as in your question, it is not permissible for him to return, and he should perform the prostration for forgetfulness afterwards. And if he remembers before he has fully stood up, he returns to the tashahhud and there is no prostration required of him. But as stated in your question, he had fully stood up, and the congregation either corrected him or he made a mistake, because if the congregation were jurists and saw him standing straight, they would have left him to his own affair. But unfortunately, what can I say, the imams of the mosques are not jurists, so what happens to those who follow these imams? The point is that either they made a mistake or he made a mistake, and the fact is that the error occurred, and it was that he should have remained standing, but he returned, so he added one error to another. This is like someone who forgets more than once in his prayer; is it obligatory for him to perform a prostration for every forgetfulness? The answer is no, one prostration is sufficient for all the mistakes a person makes, unless the mistake is in a pillar, in which case this mistake is not rectified by prostration, but it must be made up. This is the answer to the first part of your question. What is the second part?
The Shaykh : What is obligatory upon them and not upon him?
The questioner : Upon the imam, of course, since they are following the imam.
The Shaykh : Do you want to finish your question, or should I answer you about this?
The questioner : After we are done with this, we will come to the second part.
The Shaykh : He is not required to do anything other than the prostration for forgetfulness, and there is no evidence for the claim that the prayer is invalid. He made a mistake and forgot, because it was obligatory for him that when he forgot the tashahhud, if he had already stood up fully upright as in your question, it is not permissible for him to return, and he should perform the prostration for forgetfulness afterwards. And if he remembers before he has fully stood up, he returns to the tashahhud and there is no prostration required of him. But as stated in your question, he had fully stood up, and the congregation either corrected him or he made a mistake, because if the congregation were jurists and saw him standing straight, they would have left him to his own affair. But unfortunately, what can I say, the imams of the mosques are not jurists, so what happens to those who follow these imams? The point is that either they made a mistake or he made a mistake, and the fact is that the error occurred, and it was that he should have remained standing, but he returned, so he added one error to another. This is like someone who forgets more than once in his prayer; is it obligatory for him to perform a prostration for every forgetfulness? The answer is no, one prostration is sufficient for all the mistakes a person makes, unless the mistake is in a pillar, in which case this mistake is not rectified by prostration, but it must be made up. This is the answer to the first part of your question. What is the second part?
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