The verse and how it contained his refutation of those who worship other than Allah: Ibrahim. What is the meaning of the verse?
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The Shaykh : The verse and how it contained his refutation of those who worship other than Allah: Ibrahim. What is the meaning of the verse?
The student: The meaning of the verse.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: That those whom they call upon, meaning those who... these people claim Islam... do not worship Allah.
The Shaykh : What is the important point? What is the meaning of the verse? Let us...
The student: ... His saying, Exalted is He: "Those whom they call upon," meaning they associate partners...
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: Other than Allah, Mighty and Majestic. They are in need of Allah the Exalted.
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: They seek from Allah His mercy and forgiveness.
The Shaykh : Is that a refutation of these people, Muhammad?
The student: If these people are in need of Allah, then if the ones being worshipped...
The Shaykh : ...are in need of Allah.
The student: ...of Allah, then these people, these people are even more in need, so they worship Him.
The Shaykh : For they will not benefit you.
The student: Nor will they harm you.
The Shaykh : Nor will they harm you. So then, turn to what they turned to. Is that clear? He said:[Az-Zukhruf 43:26] ... Why did he say to his father and his people, "Indeed, I am disavowed of what you worship, except the One who created me," and not say "except Allah"?
The student: Because Allah created him to worship Him.
The Shaykh : Yes, but why did Ibrahim choose this description, "except the One who created me," and not say "except Allah"?
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Ah?
The student: ...
The Shaykh : ...[Az-Zukhruf 43:26] except Allah. He did not say "except Allah," even though what is the word of tawhid (the oneness of Allah)? "La ilaha illa Allah" (There is no deity but Allah). So he did not say "except Allah." He said: [Az-Zukhruf 43:26-27] So why did he deviate from "except Allah" to saying [Az-Zukhruf 43:27]?
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Ah?
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Did you not attend the lesson? Mahr.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Okay, it is as if he wanted to establish the proof against them, because the One who deserves divinity is the One who created the creation. That is one point. And these idols did not create the creation, so they have no right to worship. Is that clear? Okay, his saying "to his father," who is his father? Hajjaj.
The student: Azar.
The Shaykh : Azar.
The student: Ibrahim's father, Azar.
The Shaykh : Azar... hmm, what is the evidence?
The student:[Al-An'am 6:74] in the Qur'an.
The Shaykh : In the Qur'an. Okay, those who say that Azar is a title and not a name, what do we say to them? Hmm, what do you say? The one who says it is not his name, Azar is his title. Who will provide the answer? Sultan.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Correct. We say, no, his name is Azar, and anything other than that is not accepted, unless it is established from the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) that Azar is his title and his name is something else. That is a different matter. Okay, with this verse, the interpretation of the testimony that there is no deity but Allah, what is its aspect? What is its aspect?
The student: His saying, Exalted is He:[Al-An'am 6:74]
The Shaykh : Yes, it contains the interpretation of the testimony that there is no deity but Allah.
The student: The interpretation of the testimony that there is no deity but Allah is that it includes tawhid al-uluhiyyah (oneness of worship), because Allah may be worshipped and [others] may be worshipped... and this restricts worship to Allah alone, Glorified and Exalted is He.
The Shaykh : Yes, the testimony that there is no deity but Allah.
The student: O Shaykh
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: In the saying "La ilaha illa Allah" (There is no deity but Allah) alone, there is negation and affirmation.
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: And also, Ibrahim's saying contains negation and affirmation. So he specified... Allah. He affirmed the worship of Allah by saying "except the One who created me"...
The Shaykh : So the meaning of the testimony that there is no deity but Allah is disavowal of what is other than Allah and affirmation of divinity for Allah, Mighty and Majestic. Yes, so this is the interpretation of "La ilaha illa Allah" in this verse. It is evidence that the people of Ibrahim worshipped Allah and others. Yes.
The student: They worshipped Allah and others?
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student:[Az-Zukhruf 43:26] So the affirmation that they worship other than Allah.
The Shaykh : Yes, but they worship Allah and others. Hmm, is there no evidence? Ghanim.
The student: He said[Az-Zukhruf 43:26-27] meaning he excepted the One who created me from those whom they worship other than.
The Shaykh : From those whom they worship, so it indicates that they worship Allah and others, right? Okay, if someone says this exception is disconnected, say, Ya Waleed.
The student: Disconnected.
The Shaykh : Yes, because it is not of the same kind as what precedes it. A disconnected exception is when the excepted item is not of the same kind as what precedes it, like the grammarians' saying "The people came except a donkey." It is not "except Zayd." "Except Zayd" is connected, "except a donkey," yes. Okay, if someone says to you, for example, that this is a disconnected exception.
The student: No, no, it is not disconnected, because it is connected in the kind of worship.
The Shaykh : The answer is correct, but the reasoning is not correct. It is correct that it is not disconnected, but what is the reasoning?
The student: His saying "from what you worship"... "except the One who created me." The exception is... Allah.
The Shaykh : So its meaning is disconnected according to this report? It becomes disconnected. No, it is not disconnected.
The student: It is connected, because the original rule for exception is connection unless there is evidence.
The Shaykh : Okay, correct. We say it is connected, because the original rule for exception is connection unless there is evidence.
The student: The meaning of the verse.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: That those whom they call upon, meaning those who... these people claim Islam... do not worship Allah.
The Shaykh : What is the important point? What is the meaning of the verse? Let us...
The student: ... His saying, Exalted is He: "Those whom they call upon," meaning they associate partners...
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: Other than Allah, Mighty and Majestic. They are in need of Allah the Exalted.
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: They seek from Allah His mercy and forgiveness.
The Shaykh : Is that a refutation of these people, Muhammad?
The student: If these people are in need of Allah, then if the ones being worshipped...
The Shaykh : ...are in need of Allah.
The student: ...of Allah, then these people, these people are even more in need, so they worship Him.
The Shaykh : For they will not benefit you.
The student: Nor will they harm you.
The Shaykh : Nor will they harm you. So then, turn to what they turned to. Is that clear? He said:
And [mention, O Muhammad], when Abraham said to his father and his people, "Indeed, I am disassociated from that which you worship
وإذ قال إبراهيم لأبيه وقومه إنني براء مما تعبدونThe student: Because Allah created him to worship Him.
The Shaykh : Yes, but why did Ibrahim choose this description, "except the One who created me," and not say "except Allah"?
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Ah?
The student: ...
The Shaykh : ...
And [mention, O Muhammad], when Abraham said to his father and his people, "Indeed, I am disassociated from that which you worship
وإذ قال إبراهيم لأبيه وقومه إنني براء مما تعبدونIndeed, I am disassociated from that which you worship (27) Except for He who created me
إنني براء مما تعبدون إلا الذي فطرنيExcept for He who created me
إلا الذي فطرنيThe student: ...
The Shaykh : Ah?
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Did you not attend the lesson? Mahr.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Okay, it is as if he wanted to establish the proof against them, because the One who deserves divinity is the One who created the creation. That is one point. And these idols did not create the creation, so they have no right to worship. Is that clear? Okay, his saying "to his father," who is his father? Hajjaj.
The student: Azar.
The Shaykh : Azar.
The student: Ibrahim's father, Azar.
The Shaykh : Azar... hmm, what is the evidence?
The student:
when Abraham said to his father Azar
إذ قال إبراهيم لأبيه آزرThe Shaykh : In the Qur'an. Okay, those who say that Azar is a title and not a name, what do we say to them? Hmm, what do you say? The one who says it is not his name, Azar is his title. Who will provide the answer? Sultan.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Correct. We say, no, his name is Azar, and anything other than that is not accepted, unless it is established from the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) that Azar is his title and his name is something else. That is a different matter. Okay, with this verse, the interpretation of the testimony that there is no deity but Allah, what is its aspect? What is its aspect?
The student: His saying, Exalted is He:
And [mention, O Muhammad], when Abraham
وإذ قال إبراهيمThe Shaykh : Yes, it contains the interpretation of the testimony that there is no deity but Allah.
The student: The interpretation of the testimony that there is no deity but Allah is that it includes tawhid al-uluhiyyah (oneness of worship), because Allah may be worshipped and [others] may be worshipped... and this restricts worship to Allah alone, Glorified and Exalted is He.
The Shaykh : Yes, the testimony that there is no deity but Allah.
The student: O Shaykh
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: In the saying "La ilaha illa Allah" (There is no deity but Allah) alone, there is negation and affirmation.
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: And also, Ibrahim's saying contains negation and affirmation. So he specified... Allah. He affirmed the worship of Allah by saying "except the One who created me"...
The Shaykh : So the meaning of the testimony that there is no deity but Allah is disavowal of what is other than Allah and affirmation of divinity for Allah, Mighty and Majestic. Yes, so this is the interpretation of "La ilaha illa Allah" in this verse. It is evidence that the people of Ibrahim worshipped Allah and others. Yes.
The student: They worshipped Allah and others?
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student:
Indeed, I am disassociated from that which you worship
إنني براء مما تعبدونThe Shaykh : Yes, but they worship Allah and others. Hmm, is there no evidence? Ghanim.
The student: He said
Indeed, I am disassociated from that which you worship (27) Except for He who created me
إنني براء مما تعبدون إلا الذي فطرنيThe Shaykh : From those whom they worship, so it indicates that they worship Allah and others, right? Okay, if someone says this exception is disconnected, say, Ya Waleed.
The student: Disconnected.
The Shaykh : Yes, because it is not of the same kind as what precedes it. A disconnected exception is when the excepted item is not of the same kind as what precedes it, like the grammarians' saying "The people came except a donkey." It is not "except Zayd." "Except Zayd" is connected, "except a donkey," yes. Okay, if someone says to you, for example, that this is a disconnected exception.
The student: No, no, it is not disconnected, because it is connected in the kind of worship.
The Shaykh : The answer is correct, but the reasoning is not correct. It is correct that it is not disconnected, but what is the reasoning?
The student: His saying "from what you worship"... "except the One who created me." The exception is... Allah.
The Shaykh : So its meaning is disconnected according to this report? It becomes disconnected. No, it is not disconnected.
The student: It is connected, because the original rule for exception is connection unless there is evidence.
The Shaykh : Okay, correct. We say it is connected, because the original rule for exception is connection unless there is evidence.