Is uttering disbelief without knowledge that excuses one from having uttered it?
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The questioner : If one utters disbelief without knowing about it, he is not excused for his statement. If one utters disbelief and is not joking, is he not excused?
The Shaykh : If one mocks Allah and His messengers, he is not excused.
The questioner : The Shaykh al-Islam says: "If one utters disbelief and does not know that it is disbelief, then..."
The Shaykh : If he is not aware that it is a cause of disbelief, he is excused for it, but the mocker is aware. The mocker is aware.
The questioner : Yes, but... absolutely... the statement of one who says it while not knowing.
The Shaykh : No, his intention is not absolute, it is not absolute.
The questioner : But the apparent meaning of the hadith is that he did not excuse Awf.
The Shaykh : No, it was Awf who heard it. He heard it and said, "You lied, but you are a hypocrite," meaning that this statement you made does not correspond to reality, but you are a hypocrite.
The questioner : A Shaykh killed the apostate...
The Shaykh : If it reaches the ruler, and apostasy is dropped by repentance. In fact, he is asked to repent according to many scholars of knowledge. He is asked to repent for three days; if he repents, otherwise he is killed. For this reason, some contemporary scholars who write about retaliation and the killing of the apostate write it under the fixed punishments (hudud), and this is an error. It is not so. Furthermore, the fixed punishment (hadd) is an expiation, but the killing of the apostate is not an expiation because he is killed for his apostasy while a disbeliever.
The Shaykh : If one mocks Allah and His messengers, he is not excused.
The questioner : The Shaykh al-Islam says: "If one utters disbelief and does not know that it is disbelief, then..."
The Shaykh : If he is not aware that it is a cause of disbelief, he is excused for it, but the mocker is aware. The mocker is aware.
The questioner : Yes, but... absolutely... the statement of one who says it while not knowing.
The Shaykh : No, his intention is not absolute, it is not absolute.
The questioner : But the apparent meaning of the hadith is that he did not excuse Awf.
The Shaykh : No, it was Awf who heard it. He heard it and said, "You lied, but you are a hypocrite," meaning that this statement you made does not correspond to reality, but you are a hypocrite.
The questioner : A Shaykh killed the apostate...
The Shaykh : If it reaches the ruler, and apostasy is dropped by repentance. In fact, he is asked to repent according to many scholars of knowledge. He is asked to repent for three days; if he repents, otherwise he is killed. For this reason, some contemporary scholars who write about retaliation and the killing of the apostate write it under the fixed punishments (hudud), and this is an error. It is not so. Furthermore, the fixed punishment (hadd) is an expiation, but the killing of the apostate is not an expiation because he is killed for his apostasy while a disbeliever.