A man whose family is in Riyadh and another whose family is in Jeddah: what is the basis for distinguishing between them regarding delaying the ihram if they travel to Jeddah?
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The questioner : Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : And upon you peace and the mercy of Allah
The questioner : We have heard the distinction between the one whose family is in Jeddah and the one whose family is outside Jeddah. It is said that it is permissible to delay the ihram until he reaches his family, if he left from Jeddah, for example, if he resided in al-Qasim.
I do not know the basis for the distinction between this and that, even though the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said
The Shaykh : The first
The questioner : The first one’s family is outside Jeddah
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : outside the miqats, and the second one’s family is inside the miqats. We have heard the distinction that they say it is permissible
The Shaykh : For example, where is the first one’s family?
The questioner : His family is in Riyadh
The Shaykh : Fine.
The questioner : And the second one’s family is in Jeddah
The Shaykh : This one’s family is in Riyadh and he wants to go to Jeddah
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : And the second one’s family is in Jeddah and he wants to perform 'Umrah, but he said, or he wants to visit his family, and in this trip he wants to perform 'Umrah, intending to perform 'Umrah
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : Meaning, what is the basis for the distinction? They say it is permissible to delay the ihram
The Shaykh : The distinction between them is clear, because the man who went to his family in Jeddah is going to his family, whether he performs 'Umrah or not. But he says, I will perform 'Umrah if I stay for a week or a month or something like that.
Just as a man from the people of Makkah, if he traveled from al-Qasim to Makkah to go to his family and he wants to perform Hajj this year, we do not oblige him to enter ihram when he passes the miqat, because this man is going to his family.
And so is the first case, the one who went to his family in Jeddah.
As for the one from the people of Riyadh, he is a traveler, even in Jeddah he is a traveler, not a resident. So if he goes to Jeddah for a purpose, a job, a visit, or trade, or a position, and he wants to perform 'Umrah in this trip, this trip combines two matters. So we say: do not pass the miqat until you enter ihram, because you are a traveler, even while you are in Jeddah. As for that one, he is settled in his homeland when he reaches Jeddah, or when he reaches Makkah.
The questioner : The criterion... the parents, or meaning
The Shaykh : His residence, his residence, even if we assume that his family in Jeddah, his mother and father, are residing there, but he is residing in Riyadh.
The questioner : He is married in Riyadh, for example.
The Shaykh : Married in Riyadh and residing in Riyadh, and his mother and father are in Jeddah.
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : Now, if he comes to Jeddah, he is a traveler.
The questioner : So here it is obligatory upon him, he must
The Shaykh : So here, if he wants to go to his family for a visit and he intends to perform 'Umrah, we say: he must enter ihram from the miqat.
The questioner : Okay, does he have two homelands here?
The Shaykh : No, it is not a homeland; it is not a homeland. This is the homeland of his father and mother. And for this reason, if it were Ramadan, he would be allowed to break his fast.
The questioner : Yes, may Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : And the time has ended because the adhan was called, and we apologize to the brothers who did not get their turn. We say: gather, if Allah wills, for next week, and perhaps other issues will occur. Do you agree?
The questioner : ... coming from al-Ha'il
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed.
The questioner : We came from al-Ha'il
The Shaykh : May Allah keep you, but you benefited from what you heard of the answers, and there is no sitting after the adhan.
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : May Allah bless you. Glory be to You, O Allah, and praise be to You. We bear witness that there is no deity but You.
The Shaykh : And upon you peace and the mercy of Allah
The questioner : We have heard the distinction between the one whose family is in Jeddah and the one whose family is outside Jeddah. It is said that it is permissible to delay the ihram until he reaches his family, if he left from Jeddah, for example, if he resided in al-Qasim.
I do not know the basis for the distinction between this and that, even though the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said
The Shaykh : The first
The questioner : The first one’s family is outside Jeddah
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : outside the miqats, and the second one’s family is inside the miqats. We have heard the distinction that they say it is permissible
The Shaykh : For example, where is the first one’s family?
The questioner : His family is in Riyadh
The Shaykh : Fine.
The questioner : And the second one’s family is in Jeddah
The Shaykh : This one’s family is in Riyadh and he wants to go to Jeddah
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : And the second one’s family is in Jeddah and he wants to perform 'Umrah, but he said, or he wants to visit his family, and in this trip he wants to perform 'Umrah, intending to perform 'Umrah
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : Meaning, what is the basis for the distinction? They say it is permissible to delay the ihram
The Shaykh : The distinction between them is clear, because the man who went to his family in Jeddah is going to his family, whether he performs 'Umrah or not. But he says, I will perform 'Umrah if I stay for a week or a month or something like that.
Just as a man from the people of Makkah, if he traveled from al-Qasim to Makkah to go to his family and he wants to perform Hajj this year, we do not oblige him to enter ihram when he passes the miqat, because this man is going to his family.
And so is the first case, the one who went to his family in Jeddah.
As for the one from the people of Riyadh, he is a traveler, even in Jeddah he is a traveler, not a resident. So if he goes to Jeddah for a purpose, a job, a visit, or trade, or a position, and he wants to perform 'Umrah in this trip, this trip combines two matters. So we say: do not pass the miqat until you enter ihram, because you are a traveler, even while you are in Jeddah. As for that one, he is settled in his homeland when he reaches Jeddah, or when he reaches Makkah.
The questioner : The criterion... the parents, or meaning
The Shaykh : His residence, his residence, even if we assume that his family in Jeddah, his mother and father, are residing there, but he is residing in Riyadh.
The questioner : He is married in Riyadh, for example.
The Shaykh : Married in Riyadh and residing in Riyadh, and his mother and father are in Jeddah.
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : Now, if he comes to Jeddah, he is a traveler.
The questioner : So here it is obligatory upon him, he must
The Shaykh : So here, if he wants to go to his family for a visit and he intends to perform 'Umrah, we say: he must enter ihram from the miqat.
The questioner : Okay, does he have two homelands here?
The Shaykh : No, it is not a homeland; it is not a homeland. This is the homeland of his father and mother. And for this reason, if it were Ramadan, he would be allowed to break his fast.
The questioner : Yes, may Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : And the time has ended because the adhan was called, and we apologize to the brothers who did not get their turn. We say: gather, if Allah wills, for next week, and perhaps other issues will occur. Do you agree?
The questioner : ... coming from al-Ha'il
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed.
The questioner : We came from al-Ha'il
The Shaykh : May Allah keep you, but you benefited from what you heard of the answers, and there is no sitting after the adhan.
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : May Allah bless you. Glory be to You, O Allah, and praise be to You. We bear witness that there is no deity but You.