What is the ruling on one who breaks his fast merely upon the setting of the sun, without verifying the onset of night and the departure of the day?
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The Shaykh: In any case, regarding the sun and the valley, I later asked in the same session what was intended by the question? I naturally gave you the answer in my view, but what was the intention behind the question? Because I sense the question casts a doubt on the original hadith: Riyad as-Salihin 1236. I want clarification so we can complete the discussion.
The questioner: It is, Professor, two matters. The first is that we used to see, in our youth... seeing the sun set, they would break their fast, meaning they did not become certain of the other two conditions, and I wanted to confirm with these people; because they were sitting... and the setting of the sun is not sufficient as you mentioned, and this is an error, and an error in a pillar of Islam. The second matter, Professor, is that sometimes what happens is that the youth... from there; that it is done, brother, we heard Shaykh Nasser saying: that the sun is setting before the time written in the "calendar" - for example - a quarter of an hour or ten minutes, they go through the whole of Ramadan on this time; of course, his statement is not correct?
The Shaykh: This was necessary to mention so we can answer it; because this is not established.
The questioner: And the pre-dawn meal is the same thing as well.
The Shaykh : How?
The questioner: And the pre-dawn meal is the same thing, many youth will tell you: after a quarter of an hour they tell you I am finishing my pre-dawn meal; so that is why we tell the youth who are not certain, who did not see it with their own eyes - for example - or a trustworthy person told them, it is much better to wait for the regular adhan; meaning, once, what did one of the youth say? The sun is setting at seven twenty-two, we were breaking our fast at one of the youth's places, the next day, by Allah, or the third day, we went up to the mountain to break our fast here at the Minaret Mountain, and we found it setting at seven thirty, meaning only four minutes before the "calendar"; so here this youth erred by approximately eight minutes.
The Shaykh: This is good regarding the sunset, and regarding the dawn?
The questioner: Does the same error happen?
The Shaykh: No; how do they take precaution, meaning? Because regarding the sunset, delaying does not harm.
The questioner: No, here there is no delay, there is advancement.
The Shaykh: No, I say if we tell them to delay and be certain, what... but regarding the dawn, how do we tell them when people pray before the time?
The questioner: Do we say, Professor:?
The Shaykh: No, is the mu'adhdhin trustworthy?
Another questioner: The room is closed in the first place... also, what do I bring out? The room is wider than this, and the device is in it and the calendar is next to it, the "calendar", I put the "calendar" and the headphones and the food.
The Shaykh: And the clock.
Another questioner: And the clock.
When the night approaches from this side (i.e., the east) and the day retreats from that side (i.e., west) and the sun sets, then it is time for a person observing Saum (fasting) to break his fast.
إذا أقبل الليل من ههنا ، وأدبر النهار من ههنا ، وغربت الشمس ؛ فقد أفطر الصائمThe questioner: It is, Professor, two matters. The first is that we used to see, in our youth... seeing the sun set, they would break their fast, meaning they did not become certain of the other two conditions, and I wanted to confirm with these people; because they were sitting... and the setting of the sun is not sufficient as you mentioned, and this is an error, and an error in a pillar of Islam. The second matter, Professor, is that sometimes what happens is that the youth... from there; that it is done, brother, we heard Shaykh Nasser saying: that the sun is setting before the time written in the "calendar" - for example - a quarter of an hour or ten minutes, they go through the whole of Ramadan on this time; of course, his statement is not correct?
The Shaykh: This was necessary to mention so we can answer it; because this is not established.
The questioner: And the pre-dawn meal is the same thing as well.
The Shaykh : How?
The questioner: And the pre-dawn meal is the same thing, many youth will tell you: after a quarter of an hour they tell you I am finishing my pre-dawn meal; so that is why we tell the youth who are not certain, who did not see it with their own eyes - for example - or a trustworthy person told them, it is much better to wait for the regular adhan; meaning, once, what did one of the youth say? The sun is setting at seven twenty-two, we were breaking our fast at one of the youth's places, the next day, by Allah, or the third day, we went up to the mountain to break our fast here at the Minaret Mountain, and we found it setting at seven thirty, meaning only four minutes before the "calendar"; so here this youth erred by approximately eight minutes.
The Shaykh: This is good regarding the sunset, and regarding the dawn?
The questioner: Does the same error happen?
The Shaykh: No; how do they take precaution, meaning? Because regarding the sunset, delaying does not harm.
The questioner: No, here there is no delay, there is advancement.
The Shaykh: No, I say if we tell them to delay and be certain, what... but regarding the dawn, how do we tell them when people pray before the time?
The questioner: Do we say, Professor:
The mu'adhdhin is trustworthy
المؤذِّن مؤتمنThe Shaykh: No, is the mu'adhdhin trustworthy?
Another questioner: The room is closed in the first place... also, what do I bring out? The room is wider than this, and the device is in it and the calendar is next to it, the "calendar", I put the "calendar" and the headphones and the food.
The Shaykh: And the clock.
Another questioner: And the clock.
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